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Forthcoming Release is a 1/9<SUP>th</SUP> Bust
Knight C. 1340
The model is sculpted by Carl Reid & cast in resin.
Box art (to follow) will be by Sang-Eon Lee.
Lee has a preliminary casting & wants to complete this SBS on his blog & his Facebook site – so I’ve decided to launch a little earlier than originally planned to allow him to do this. I expect the model to be available from 21<SUP>st</SUP> March & it will be priced at £39

Steve
www.skminiatures.co.uk
 

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I love how the presentation varies release by release, these fabulours busts by SK and Carl. Keeps the excitement going and the spirit high.

Steve,
Bear with me as I try to set things up for Paypal again.

My best regards to you and family.

Michael
 
Thia is another fantastic sculpt by Carl. I have to say though that the scalloped left side makes the figure look unbalanced in my view. I'd have preferred the torso to have been complete even if the left arm was left as it is.
 
Excellent release Steve, I am happy that this time one arm is missing, now it is much more like a bust and not a half figure, well done.
Christos
 
Forthcoming Release is a 1/9<SUP>th</SUP> Bust
Knight C. 1340
The model is sculpted by Carl Reid & cast in resin.
Box art (to follow) will be by Sang-Eon Lee.
Lee has a preliminary casting & wants to complete this SBS on his blog & his Facebook site – so I’ve decided to launch a little earlier than originally planned to allow him to do this. I expect the model to be available from 21<SUP>st</SUP> March & it will be priced at £39

Steve
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How do i find Lee's blog.
Brian
 
hello
iam not so happy with the helmet.because on normal pothelmet would have been looked better.so far i have seen this helmet only on some minatures.
as far as i know no orginal is recorded.the visor is gigantic and there is no way how it would stay in its position when open.on an normal sallet the visor is much smaller an lighter and can be secured by the side pivots.and an sallet is much more rounded at front as is the visor.but this is nearly flatfaced so two pivoting points without any hooks would never hold the helmets visor in an open position.it would on the slightest move snap down with an massive force because of the pure weight of this big plate..next is that the helmet has an ZIMIER or crestfigure. the opened visor would get entangled with the crest when opened.so its not to logic.there are globic helmets around 1450 ties called GREAT BASCINETS but those visors are much much smaller.
i agree that an second arm maybe resting with hand of an sword might have looked more harmonic.
i would change the helmet to an normal pothelmet.
there are some visored sallets or great bascinets known but merely all are venetian and dating to the 1450 ties.
the date of the figure would suit the classic great helmet better.
i was for days reluctant to write my oppinion.but kill me if you must i dared to do.
and its only an oppinion.from the artistic püoint the figur is again very very handsome.could i sculpt an arm an helmet i would buy it neverless and alter it...so iam thinking over if i would dare to alter it with my clumsy hands.i love the subject.but it would have been much more nicer if the body armour would have been mate as coat of plates like the ones found in the massgraves of Visby.so its again an surcoat like on nearly all knights in miniature.
cheers
 
As I said in my earlier post, this model was released slightly earlier than planned to allow Lee to post SBS on the painting on his blog & Facebook. Since then, Carl has been looking at the photos & has decided that the face could have more character. As the model is not yet officially released, he is re-sculpting the face & Lee has kindly agreed to continue the SBS as soon as he's received the revised model.

The timescale for the release of the model will only go back by a few days at most & the model should still be available in the week commencing 21st March. Revised pictures will be available & posted here soon.

Lee’s Blog can be found at:-


http://blog.naver.com/hecklerkoch
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Hi Markus,

Thanks for your comments about the model.
The piece was heavily inspired by the detailed illustrations in the Osprey book 'Knight of Outremer' Warrior series 18 by David Nicolle PhD & Christa Hook. In that book the armour is shown in great detail in Plate J with references as to sources as well in the notes.

Steve
 
hello steve
yes i know the osprey series.as i said i have seen this helmet form on some miniatures over the time.
like the old Funcken drawings one can sometimes bee of different oppinion on Osprey artwork if an special item did exist.
specialy in an armour part which is so early.as far i know only 15 complete pothelmet of the 14 century do exist until today.
armourers where even at this date very wide in their research to find out the best solutions in armour making.
sometimes the todays illustrators take their inspirations from old medieval illustrations.but those can be at this early date often highly styliszised and give only an rough impression.one must consider that the painters of that date did not draw any items to detailed because their readers did live in the same timeframe and did know the stuff depicted from own daily life.
when you want to make such an helmet this is technical possible but you would need some locking device or hooks to secure the opened visor.
an further drawback is that you can not partly open the visor,which is often an great relief to let some fresh air to the face.of course on can hold the visor with hand during such an action.
but then you have the further risk that an visor without any locking mechanism or hook might be opened by any foe in thick of battle and the face would then be uncovered.
so one does find on nearly any helmet with visors which can be opened an locking device.
this is on case on the ARMET THE SALLET or on the BARBUTE which may have an small visor in some cases.
normaly the knights did wear under the helmet an heavy padded arming cap at this date.but one can not say if not even pothelmets with inner liner where made only because none are known.
well i have to admitt that records of such early armour are very thinn.
in any case one should consider to paint the knight in an italian or venetian coat of arms because the helmetform come close to helmets used in italy as ventia.
while the chains on chest where mostly used in germany to secure sword or dagger to the bodyarmour.in german called KASTENBRUST.
neverless an excellent sculpted item.and of course one has to rely on special illustrations to make an figure.
if i look at the FUNCKEN books and its drawings there are many figures in it which are artistic quite free.its always the problem if one follows an special drawing to close.
i want name here the verlinden figure of an german knight around 1340.it was copied from an osprey man at arms GERMAN MEDIEVAL ARMIES.
the armour is very nicely rendered alas the sword which was issued to the knight is an trusting sword around 1460 ties.at the date of the knight this special sword form was not used at all.so an excellent figure is spoiled by an not suiting weapon.
its like you sculpt an german ss grenadier and give him an M16.it just will look not right.so Osprey booklets are often not fully correct.neverless in generel an great source.but always tricky if one relies completly on one single source.
i admitt that my critics are very special,surely one can paint the knight the way he is and will end with an most pleasing item.

cheers
 
Thank you for you input Markus,

You make some interesting points!

I would just like to direct you at this point, to the link I have supplied. As you can see this should validate the qualifications of the renowned historian David Nicolle.
I really can't imagine he would make random and spurious claims on important details, such helmets, armour and surcoats. After all these are the fundamentle basis of the Medievil Knight.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Nicolle

Carl
 
hello carl
i do not doubt the knowledge of the man.
but its often not the historian its the publicers which screw up thing.often they commit artists to do the artwork for an special edition beneath the work of the classic historian writing the text.and if something is screwed up often time does not permitt to toss away the artwork and make new ones.so the Ospreys are really not bad but in no way the lone authority.i like them an lot myself but sometimes found items i it i dare to doubt.
if one looks at the old Christoper Rothero ilustarted editions those are very naive looking as is the Funcken booklet.
as i wrote in one edition about german medieval knights the artwork did contain and completly wrong sword.and of course did the sculpture which made the figure for verlinden see no reason why he should not follow the illustrations.
and so the figure features now an sword not in use at this date.
as i said such early armour is very scarce,one good adress to look at some is the Churburg in South Tyrolia of the Counts of Matsch which contains some very early milanese armour dating around 1340-1480 ties.at this date the classic pothelmet was in use.often worn benath an small Bascinet or HIRNHAUBE like its called in german.
so far i have seen pics of nearly all exitsisting pothelmets like the Pranke helmet the black princes helmet.then some which where undug in germany.but well they are not too many around.
but this special form i have never seen in an existing orginal.i doubt that it would be serviceable from logic points.
but the person which would call himself having seen anything or does know anything is always in the danger to get called ignorant.only because i have seen none must not mean they might not be one arouind.but from my feeling and my knowledge from handling armour over the years i see no way how this helmet should work in reality with only the two pivoting anchoring points to hold this huge visor
as far i have not seen any in books museum catalogues or auction catalogues.
if looks similary to the barbuta helmets and some of those have very small visors.
i admire your fine scuilpting as always.in my eyes when it comes to busts or figures your work is excellent.
thanks for your comments.
hope to see many more of your fine works.
cheers
 
Thank you for your kind compliments.

I appreciate your input Marcus!

However David Nicolle MA, Phd is one of the leading recognised experts in this specific area, I really can not image a an expert of such stature would allow contradctory artwork to destroy his professional reputation. He would, I imagine be extremely vigilant where this is concerned. After all he has authored several titles for Osprey, if the artwork was questionable I feel sure he would cease his accosiation to maintain his proffessional standing!

I appreciate you are armed with some Knowledge yourself Marcus, but who is to say your knowledge and reference is correct?
I think you would agree, the Knowledge of a recognised expert, with the pedigree of David Nicolle MA, Phd. is a fairly credable source to tap into!

You see Marcus I am a sculpor not an historian!!!! I rely on reference and resources from external areas. So I use what ever means I can to find the information. I am not sure if you think we just make things up as we go along, randomly? We dont!!! We rely on the likes of David Nicolle etc to provide us with the information. We then execute the piece accordingly!!

You have made several claims questioning the validity of Osprey and there historical accuracy. Why don't you contact Osprey and raise your points with them? Maybe you could offer your services?

Cheers

Carl
 
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