WIP Critique German SS officer tanker.
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Mike S.
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Nicely done expressive face that should paint up well.
Wormhoudt massacre.
Carl.
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gothicgeek
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However the sculptors choice of subject is ultimately theirs.
If Igor wants to sculpt axis subjects and yes, even SS, then that's fine.
Commission him to do something else and you get a say in the matter...
If Igor wants to sculpt axis subjects and yes, even SS, then that's fine.
Commission him to do something else and you get a say in the matter...
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Igor
You sculpt what you want to. You are doing a great job.
You do not need to explain your choice of subject here.
Mike,
this "why SS" topic has been discussed here to death.
Members here are now getting sick and tired of it.
If you feel so strongly about it, start your own tread instead of
hijacking a sculpting thread.... please.
You sculpt what you want to. You are doing a great job.
You do not need to explain your choice of subject here.
Mike,
this "why SS" topic has been discussed here to death.
Members here are now getting sick and tired of it.
If you feel so strongly about it, start your own tread instead of
hijacking a sculpting thread.... please.
Panzer
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Igor
I agree with Mr. T; sculpt what you want! if Mike doesn't like what you sculpt that's his problem!!
I personally have always found WWII German uniforms to be some of the most interesting and colorful.
Keep up the good work.
Chris Mrosko
I agree with Mr. T; sculpt what you want! if Mike doesn't like what you sculpt that's his problem!!
I personally have always found WWII German uniforms to be some of the most interesting and colorful.
Keep up the good work.
Chris Mrosko
I think there's a great barrier between depiction and performance. To quote Pasolini, real fascism is hidden in the dictature of nowadays consuming society. It's all around us. Depicting the ss soldier in a human way acknowledges merely their duality and the main goal is accuracy in making those beautiful uniforms splendidly sculpted. Withouth hailing any fascistic thoughts.
I loved Ralph Fiennes in his Goeth role and I believe Spielberg deliberately chose this sex-appealed actor to keep us ongoing thinking about the why.
I'm not saying Fascism is sexy but I have to admit, for some reason the German uniforms are very hot
The real sculptor is focussed on how to provide the Y-strap this time, and which one? Which jacket and the amount of wrinkles, Wicking, Leibstandarte or anything else that could make a difference in a pictorial and historical way.
note that sculptors are aware of the multi-interpretable meaning of 'historical'
ow, forgot Igor, I like your sculpt!
René
I loved Ralph Fiennes in his Goeth role and I believe Spielberg deliberately chose this sex-appealed actor to keep us ongoing thinking about the why.
I'm not saying Fascism is sexy but I have to admit, for some reason the German uniforms are very hot
The real sculptor is focussed on how to provide the Y-strap this time, and which one? Which jacket and the amount of wrinkles, Wicking, Leibstandarte or anything else that could make a difference in a pictorial and historical way.
note that sculptors are aware of the multi-interpretable meaning of 'historical'
ow, forgot Igor, I like your sculpt!
René
Knikki
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Really nice looking piece there Igor.
i can only laugh about the FUZZ with that SS thing.
the Waffen SS was the first EUROPEAN Army itself.so if overhysteric english moralics see an problem in it.....then its not an alone GERMAN.then its an EUROPEAN. even an very small contingent of englishmen was enlisted in the SS....till today an very unnerving thing for the island.....
you ask WHY?
simply because nearly all european countries had contingents of soldiers fighting in the waffen ss.
bid drafting and recruting was from scandinavia-estonia alssace the balcans ect ect ect.nearly all VOLKSDEUTSCHE served automatic in waffen ss.
so its in reality the case that while may volunteered many where simpy drafted to it.
so not any soldier which di wear this tunic was an NAZI OVERWARRIOR
its like its always else.search for the bastards in their ranks you will find them,search for the normal ones in the ranks you will find those as well.
the figure is shaping up nicely.......the photo shows Joachim Peiper so i would not recreate this decorations on an tank commander.
the Nahkampfspange was issued to Infantry units.Peiper does wear it because he was commander of the infantry Panzergrenadier units detached to LAH.an classic tank commander would not normaly wear this.even because of transtitions from other units can be possible....but not practical.
then i think the german cross in gold sits very high on the chest.to high.
but its an rough sketch and thing might be still starightened out.
maybe i would like to have an tank commander without knights cross.its awarded very eagerly in modellers armys to figures.
and by the way
i have no need of pics of an concentrationcamp.
but i can only give the advice
IF YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE UNIT DETACHMENTS OF THE WAFFEN SS GIVE NO SILLY OVERMORALIC COMMENTS ON AN FORUM.more if its about an figure only.
this is not politicaly arena-this is only hobby......
as always read some books and educate before you give lessions to others-and MORALICS are no substitude for HISTORIC CORRECT DATA..
an front line fighting waffen ss unit had nothing to do with the guarding units of such camps.....
the waffen SS was established in 1942.
the ALLGEMEINE SS in 1924
and the armed branch of this which fought 1940 in france was called SS-VT SS VERFÜGUNGSTRUPPE-simply because the waffen SS did not exist at this date at all.
so its always hard with people to discuss matters which can not divide beetween an SS Police detachment for partisan fight or an Totenkopfwachverband für Lager which would be translated SS DEATHHEADS UNIT WATCH GUARD.
cheers to england
its the old word
some mothers do ave them...........
the Waffen SS was the first EUROPEAN Army itself.so if overhysteric english moralics see an problem in it.....then its not an alone GERMAN.then its an EUROPEAN. even an very small contingent of englishmen was enlisted in the SS....till today an very unnerving thing for the island.....
you ask WHY?
simply because nearly all european countries had contingents of soldiers fighting in the waffen ss.
bid drafting and recruting was from scandinavia-estonia alssace the balcans ect ect ect.nearly all VOLKSDEUTSCHE served automatic in waffen ss.
so its in reality the case that while may volunteered many where simpy drafted to it.
so not any soldier which di wear this tunic was an NAZI OVERWARRIOR
its like its always else.search for the bastards in their ranks you will find them,search for the normal ones in the ranks you will find those as well.
the figure is shaping up nicely.......the photo shows Joachim Peiper so i would not recreate this decorations on an tank commander.
the Nahkampfspange was issued to Infantry units.Peiper does wear it because he was commander of the infantry Panzergrenadier units detached to LAH.an classic tank commander would not normaly wear this.even because of transtitions from other units can be possible....but not practical.
then i think the german cross in gold sits very high on the chest.to high.
but its an rough sketch and thing might be still starightened out.
maybe i would like to have an tank commander without knights cross.its awarded very eagerly in modellers armys to figures.
and by the way
i have no need of pics of an concentrationcamp.
but i can only give the advice
IF YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF THE UNIT DETACHMENTS OF THE WAFFEN SS GIVE NO SILLY OVERMORALIC COMMENTS ON AN FORUM.more if its about an figure only.
this is not politicaly arena-this is only hobby......
as always read some books and educate before you give lessions to others-and MORALICS are no substitude for HISTORIC CORRECT DATA..
an front line fighting waffen ss unit had nothing to do with the guarding units of such camps.....
the waffen SS was established in 1942.
the ALLGEMEINE SS in 1924
and the armed branch of this which fought 1940 in france was called SS-VT SS VERFÜGUNGSTRUPPE-simply because the waffen SS did not exist at this date at all.
so its always hard with people to discuss matters which can not divide beetween an SS Police detachment for partisan fight or an Totenkopfwachverband für Lager which would be translated SS DEATHHEADS UNIT WATCH GUARD.
cheers to england
its the old word
some mothers do ave them...........
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