Help needed for this figure

[megroot]

Hello Guys,
I'm openend the box of this gorgeus figure yesterday evening.
Alot of cleaning is needed, and alot off putty to fill the gaps.
As i assemble my figures totally before i'm painting (as far as needed)this figure will bring me in problems with that.
So, is there anybody who has build and painted this figure.
What are the pitfalls, and what can be assembled before painting.
As i'm a oilpainter it is difficult to mix the same paint again (maybe this is the same with acrylic) i wanna be build it together much as possible.
So any help and advise is welcome.

Marc,
This is the figure.

 

[Roy]

Hi Marc, I know Frank Henson (FrankH, I think) as finished one of these just recently, maybe he will spot this and chime in with some ideas.

All the best mate

Roy.

 

[moore]

Marc,

I have seen this kit before.. but whose is it and what scale ?
I really like it, can't wait to see you paint it.
I would be interested too to see what some opinions are in buld up.

Dee

 

[Einion]

Alot of cleaning is needed, and alot off putty to fill the gaps.

This is from Andrea right?

As i assemble my figures totally before i'm painting (as far as needed)this figure will bring me in problems with that.

I think given the difficulties I would assemble it nearly completely before painting. I don't like doing this myself because of the difficulty in painting into deep recesses but you may have no option here.

As i'm a oilpainter it is difficult to mix the same paint again (maybe this is the same with acrylic)...

If you can't do this by eye I would recommend you make written notes for each mixture, really helps in doing the same colour again

Einion

 

[megroot]

Dee,
Thanks for your encouragment. Hope someone drop's in.

Marc

 

[megroot]

This is from Andrea right?

Yes it is from Andrea. Hope'd nobody guess it

I think given the difficulties I would assemble it nearly completely before painting. I don't like doing this myself because of the difficulty in painting into deep recesses but you may have no option here.

Given the complains of Andrea figures i've seen in the past years i guess not. It is my first Andrea figure, and i think it is gonna be the last.

If you can't do this by eye I would recommend you make written notes for each mixture, really helps in doing the same colour again .

No i can't do it by the eye, i've always a different color. Even with note's i never passed for this examen. So some more help would be welcomeEinion thanks for your help.


Marc

 

[moore]

Marc,

Your such a good painter... I can't see your hesitation.

I assume then if this is an Andrea. .its 54MM.
I have heard about Andrea... why would this be your last ? I mean
is the casting not well done ? the sculpt ?

I did the Andrea U-boat cpt.. just finished him.. and I know he was
just a bust.. but I really thought it was a nice bust.

What I usually do with my paint mixes is I do write them down.. but
what I do is.... sometimes.... I will clip that pallet paper off and put
it with the written mix. So I can see the color I had. OR... I keep my
pallet till I am done.. even though it has dried up.. I keep it.


I was taught to put together the whole figure. Don't leave anything
off.. unless its a sword or rifle.... but put it all together and then paint
it. What you can't get to.... would be maybe in shadow so it may
not be too critical. I am not very good about putting things on afterwards
for the fact that if its not a perfect fit.. then I have to re-mix flesh tones
or another color.. etc.. and matching would be difficult... for me..

I find that I can get into some of the smaller/tighter spaces or areas
when sometimes it looks imposisble.

Will like to see which way you go with it.

Dee

 

[megroot]

Your such a good painter... I can't see your hesitation.

Dee, it is not hesitation but not knowing how to achieve it. Everything on the figure doesn't fit. Every part that has to glue on needs more or less putty. I know, that every figure needs some putty here and there, but this is insane.

I assume then if this is an Andrea. .its 54MM.
I have heard about Andrea... why would this be your last ? I mean
is the casting not well done ? the sculpt ?

Yes, it is 54mm. The casting is good, the sculpting is awesome but the fitting
I never had this with Pegaso, Soldiers, EMI... so i heard more about this complains with Andrea figures.

What I usually do with my paint mixes is I do write them down.. but
what I do is.... sometimes.... I will clip that pallet paper off and put
it with the written mix. So I can see the color I had. OR... I keep my
pallet till I am done.. even though it has dried up.. I keep it.

Thanks for these tips.

I was taught to put together the whole figure. Don't leave anything
off.. unless its a sword or rifle.... but put it all together and then paint
it. What you can't get to.... would be maybe in shadow so it may
not be too critical. I am not very good about putting things on afterwards
for the fact that if its not a perfect fit.. then I have to re-mix flesh tones
or another color.. etc.. and matching would be difficult... for me..
I find that I can get into some of the smaller/tighter spaces or areas
when sometimes it looks imposisble.

Dee

I think that it is gonna be this way. Looks a tuff one, but there must always be some challenge.

marc

 

[Marcel]

Hi Marc,

For making the mixes maybe it's an idea to paint the colors on a piece of paper let them dry. Afterwards place a transparent on top and mix your colors on the transparent so you can see the colors below. I think Guy did something similar for mixing.
Just an idea don't know if it will work.

Marcel.

 

[megroot]

Thanks Marcel,
Yes it is a good idea. I've seen it in his SBS. Looks good.
But i find it very difficult to mix the same color again. Maybe mixing more and store it in a syringe.

Marc

 

[Mark S]

Marc,I've got this piece on my bench right now.I intend
to include it in a vignette with another Moscow retreat figure I'm working on.
I've got it to the stage where it's all together and primed
except for the drum and kettle which I'll paint separately.
I have to say I haven't had the trouble with it that you mention.The pieces for me came together ok and the use of filler and clean up was no more work than I'd expect with most figures.
The figure is beautifully sculpted,a little smaller than an average 54mm,but so much so that there's a
lot of fine detail which should make it an enjoyable challenge to bring up the best.
All I can think of is maybe the pieces in your kit have become distorted or damaged somehow.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I didnt have any perticular problem withi this kit except for the drum which I had to modify to sit tight.

On the other hand I havent got around to paint it.

Cheers

 

[Marcel]

Maybe mixing more and store it in a syringe.

Marc

Marc maybe you can store it in this little boxes from the contact lenses with screwcap in the fridge.

btw I have a similar figure from the return from moscow from art-girona, it will be my next project. Right now I'm reading the book to get in the mood.

 

[moore]

Marc,

Sorry, I now understand what you mean. I thought you meant about how your going t paint it. But you mean assembly. I can hear your frustration
in your reply. I wonder after reading other comments if you just did get
a bad cast. Will continue to moniter this thread and see the outcome.
Marc... maybe you can snap a digital and lets look at the parts... I would like to see the kit.

Dee

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Marc maybe you can store it in this little boxes from the contact lenses with screwcap in the fridge.

btw I have a similar figure from the return from moscow from art-girona, it will be my next project. Right now I'm reading the book to get in the mood.

I rarely write down mixes and go by eyesight. My trick is that work with filters which tones the colours and reduces the effect depending on how much you do it. Also help a little bit feathring out shadows and highlights but too much might take away the contrast.

Cheers

 

[megroot]

Thanks to all of you.
It seems that i had a bad casting. For instance. The right leg of the older soldier doesnt fit good. It has a gap from about 0.5 mm.
The left leg from the boy doesn't fit, it must reworked. The drum doesn't fit in no way (i think the same way as Janne will do the job).
The cape of the boy, need to be reworked.
Well, since i have a bad casting, and i really like this figure, i put it all together and paint it.
As a great painter once sayed: if you can see it, you can paint it.

Marc

 

[Bluesking]

Marc,

I have done this one and really found it quite straight forward to build /paint