Jimbo mate,I did say the sculpt was fantastic, and a very good likeness, I recognise the sculptors skill, and I commend him. Obviously I have annoyed you with my potted historical Churchill comments. I was around when he was Prime Minister, very young I was during the War, but I remember him well as a school boy, and when I joined the services. As my son says ,Dad you are a mine of useless information. What I can only suggest to you is that if you do not like reading what I have written, and consider my comments out of order, then refer me to the Administrator and have them or me removed. You do not have to remind me about the possible German conversational outcome, as several members of my family like many others never came back from that ]
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Gaudin
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Hardly a model - smoking, drinking, women - hardly a role model for young generation
Sculpt is great for what it is.
Sturm Grenadier
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Incredible likeness to the man. Amazing sculpting!!! Congrats to Sang-Eon Lee. Regards, SG
Einion
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Now that is a likeness.
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Wow .....Stunning likeness .My compliments to the sculptor .Well done !
I like it and can't wait to see the rest of the bust.
I enjoy the history, sculpting and almost all the other discussion taking place on this forum. Many of us are mines of useless information, and if we can't air it amongst fellow modellers, when can we? I suspect our SWMBOs aren't overly interested, so we have to an outlet!
Happy modelling,
Mike
I enjoy the history, sculpting and almost all the other discussion taking place on this forum. Many of us are mines of useless information, and if we can't air it amongst fellow modellers, when can we? I suspect our SWMBOs aren't overly interested, so we have to an outlet!
Happy modelling,
Mike
megroot
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This is Winston Churchill.
What a likeness.
Great bust.
Marc
What a likeness.
Great bust.
Marc
Gellso
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Excellent.
Thank you for those remarks Mike, I was beginning to think that I was out of step with PF. I just love the fact that from one single contribution from a member, it can unlock a wealth of knowledge, views, facts, or just plain interesting stories. At the end of the day it's people and communication that matters, together with the skills of the hobby. The resin, and paint then is a bonus.
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Superb sculpt by a superb sculptor, TOP quality, the history is also very interesting to me.
I think Waterman meant that comments of just 'will or won't buy' he finds boring not the modelling and sculpting itself or the historical discussion,
As said a superb piece and a true likeness
Very best wishes
I think Waterman meant that comments of just 'will or won't buy' he finds boring not the modelling and sculpting itself or the historical discussion,
As said a superb piece and a true likeness
Very best wishes
carl reid
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Fabulous work Sang, truly amazing buddy!
I have sculpted Churchill a couple of times over the years, one for The Royal Mint.
He has a very distinctive posture and gate.
Carl
I have sculpted Churchill a couple of times over the years, one for The Royal Mint.
He has a very distinctive posture and gate.
Carl
tonydawe
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The sculpting is world-class, worthy of the highest praise and I'll certainly be purchasing this bust when it comes out.
Like Waterman, I have a somewhat jaundiced view of Churchill, the wartime leader and strategist, and have read several books on the subject of his strained relationships with the Australian wartime Prime Ministers' Robert Menzies and John Curtin, particularly "The Great Betrayal". I have no wish to throw fuel on the fire, but Waterman expresses a view that many Australian's share, that Churchill promised that the British Empire would defend Australia in return for Australia sending ALL its armed forces overseas to fight the Germans, and then reneged on that promise of Imperial Protection and tried to prevent the Australian Government returning its forces to defend Australia against the threat of Japanese invasion. The invasion never happened, in part because of the US naval victory in the battle of Coral Sea and also because of the return of the AIF to Australia just in time to fight the Battle of Kokoda.
It's a moot point now, but at the time the threat of invasion was real and several attacks, including bombing raids on Darwin and northern ports and attacks in Sydney Harbour by Japanese midget submarines, made the liklihood of invasion very real. With virtually all our trained soldiers, sailors and airmen and all their equipment overseas fighting the Germans, Australia was completely unable to defend itself. When Singapore fell, Churchill's guarentee of Imperial Protection became an empty promise. No doubt in the larger scheme of things, this was a matter that concerned Churchill less than the defence of the British Isles against the Luftwaffe and preventing India falling into the hands of the Japanese. Such are the fortunes of war. The less said about the merits of the Gallipoli Campaign the better. Everyone deserves their fair share of criticism for that disaster!
There's no doubt a very interesting and heated historical argument that could be had about the merits of Churchill's legacy (one that I'd love to get into), but that belongs on a separate thread.
That debate shouldn't overshadow the reality that this bust of Churchill is unquestionably the best miniature likeness ever produced of the man, and is destined to become a classic. I can see the tables of every modelling competition around the world covered in examples of this bust in the coming years.
Like Waterman, I have a somewhat jaundiced view of Churchill, the wartime leader and strategist, and have read several books on the subject of his strained relationships with the Australian wartime Prime Ministers' Robert Menzies and John Curtin, particularly "The Great Betrayal". I have no wish to throw fuel on the fire, but Waterman expresses a view that many Australian's share, that Churchill promised that the British Empire would defend Australia in return for Australia sending ALL its armed forces overseas to fight the Germans, and then reneged on that promise of Imperial Protection and tried to prevent the Australian Government returning its forces to defend Australia against the threat of Japanese invasion. The invasion never happened, in part because of the US naval victory in the battle of Coral Sea and also because of the return of the AIF to Australia just in time to fight the Battle of Kokoda.
It's a moot point now, but at the time the threat of invasion was real and several attacks, including bombing raids on Darwin and northern ports and attacks in Sydney Harbour by Japanese midget submarines, made the liklihood of invasion very real. With virtually all our trained soldiers, sailors and airmen and all their equipment overseas fighting the Germans, Australia was completely unable to defend itself. When Singapore fell, Churchill's guarentee of Imperial Protection became an empty promise. No doubt in the larger scheme of things, this was a matter that concerned Churchill less than the defence of the British Isles against the Luftwaffe and preventing India falling into the hands of the Japanese. Such are the fortunes of war. The less said about the merits of the Gallipoli Campaign the better. Everyone deserves their fair share of criticism for that disaster!
There's no doubt a very interesting and heated historical argument that could be had about the merits of Churchill's legacy (one that I'd love to get into), but that belongs on a separate thread.
That debate shouldn't overshadow the reality that this bust of Churchill is unquestionably the best miniature likeness ever produced of the man, and is destined to become a classic. I can see the tables of every modelling competition around the world covered in examples of this bust in the coming years.
Johan
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Superb bust, made me wonder if this is digitally sculpted ? but nevertheless "wow". Great likeness !
Interesting comments about the contribution of the Aussies in both world wars. I would further like to mention we should not forget the Aussies were at Ypres in 1916 (I think) and their great contribution to the "good" cause in Europe's darkest hour in 1940 - 1941 : the battle of Britain, the Balkans, Greece, Crete, North Africa. You do not often see that represented as models or figures, alas. Given the fact they came from the other side of the globe to do all this, they deserve better.
Interesting comments about the contribution of the Aussies in both world wars. I would further like to mention we should not forget the Aussies were at Ypres in 1916 (I think) and their great contribution to the "good" cause in Europe's darkest hour in 1940 - 1941 : the battle of Britain, the Balkans, Greece, Crete, North Africa. You do not often see that represented as models or figures, alas. Given the fact they came from the other side of the globe to do all this, they deserve better.
elanlane13
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Stunning sculpting. To get such widespread approval of the likeness of a figure who is so well known takes real skill.
Richie
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Hi All,
I have to agree about the level of sculpting on this one, fantastic likeness. I suppose Churchill is like Marmite you either like or don't.
cheers
Richie
Funny my Dad who is still alive would strongly disagree with that statement in some respects "fend for herself" and agree in part to the rest, he was part of the task force that was in the Pacific helping to defend our Australian allies and the surrounding areas against the Japanese threat. His aircraft carrier had even seen "Divine Wind", he served on HMS Indomitable.
I have to agree about the level of sculpting on this one, fantastic likeness. I suppose Churchill is like Marmite you either like or don't.
cheers
Richie
Funny my Dad who is still alive would strongly disagree with that statement in some respects "fend for herself" and agree in part to the rest, he was part of the task force that was in the Pacific helping to defend our Australian allies and the surrounding areas against the Japanese threat. His aircraft carrier had even seen "Divine Wind", he served on HMS Indomitable.
A superb likeness of the man, as I stated above, I'm looking forward to seeing the completed bust.
As the English son of Aussie parents, I hope I have a reasonably balanced view. Gallipoli failed due to bad generalship. The part played by the ANZACS (we must not forget the Kiwis) has regrettably been forgotten. We have forgiven our enemies, which is laudable, but in doing so have overlooked our friends, which is lamentable. After Gallipoli Churchill resigned from the government and took command of an infantry battalion on the Western Front. Whatever his faults, cowardice was not amongst them. At least Andy Cairns is keeping the Antipodean flag flying with his superb figures.
I rather fancy doing a NSW Lancer at some point. However I have gone off topic again, so:
Happy modelling,
Mike
As the English son of Aussie parents, I hope I have a reasonably balanced view. Gallipoli failed due to bad generalship. The part played by the ANZACS (we must not forget the Kiwis) has regrettably been forgotten. We have forgiven our enemies, which is laudable, but in doing so have overlooked our friends, which is lamentable. After Gallipoli Churchill resigned from the government and took command of an infantry battalion on the Western Front. Whatever his faults, cowardice was not amongst them. At least Andy Cairns is keeping the Antipodean flag flying with his superb figures.
I rather fancy doing a NSW Lancer at some point. However I have gone off topic again, so:
Happy modelling,
Mike
Martin64
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Spitting likeness of a controversial personality! Wonderful sculpting job. An SBS how this bust was created would be most interesting.
This thread drew quite some attention. I doubt that anybody will change his view about the merits and faults of a historical character or on political beliefs by reading others comments. But as long as the discussion does not get insulting - why not. I would then just prefer to do it in a thread or subforum of its own. My two cents and because of that I will keep my view on Mr. Churchill for myself.
Cheers, Martin
This thread drew quite some attention. I doubt that anybody will change his view about the merits and faults of a historical character or on political beliefs by reading others comments. But as long as the discussion does not get insulting - why not. I would then just prefer to do it in a thread or subforum of its own. My two cents and because of that I will keep my view on Mr. Churchill for myself.
Cheers, Martin
Jimbo
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Waterman, No worries we all have our own views and we all have the right to air them on this forum or any where else come to that, like Richie said the man is like Marmite, you either love him or hate him, no inbetweens! I don't normally get drawn in on this sort of thing and this should have been spoken about under another heading/section on this forum, maybe the Lounge..... well I won't say no more!
Anyway the sculpt of the man is superb and the likeness is spot on, such a very brave move for any sculptor to take on such a well known face, Sang-Eon Lee has done a fantastic job on this one, that is why I come on this forum to view top notch sculpting/ painting and gather inspiration and new skills for my own modelling efforts.
Cheers
Jim
No problems Jim, alls well that ends well. My problem is that being new to this technology, I am never really sure what can or can not be posted on which ever site, and I just get carried away with what ever is on my mind at that moment. I have met you , only once, but you came across as a pleasant guy. It just proves that face to face, people are less likely to miss understand each other, as the body language is able to come across. Take care mate.
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It will be interesting to see the reaction when they produce the busts of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Pol Pot.
Stick to Wehrmacht and SS figures - you'll get less of a reaction next time
By the way - superb piece of sculpture - masterful...
Stick to Wehrmacht and SS figures - you'll get less of a reaction next time
By the way - superb piece of sculpture - masterful...
