Maori Warrior ready for the Moko

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Marco,great work.
I've found the painting your doing and the entire thread
fascinating.Brilliant work.
I don't feel the feathers work with the rest of the bust.
Just me maybe.

Mark I have to agree. I think the feathers come off a tad garish. Would like to see them a tad more subdued to match the lovely toned-down effect of the over all bust. But Mack, don't get me wrong, a very strong effort for sure!

Jay H.
OKC
 
Great great work. But I have to agree what the others said about the feathers. A tad too bright maybe?

Stephen Mallia
 
Yes, my friends, the feathers have to be retouched. I have glued them just to see the final effect.And I was thinking to:

- Or make some subtle washes to tone down and "feathering" the colours in a more real look.

- Or to redo the biggest yellow green ones in another more attracting mood

What's your opinion?
Thanks again.
 
Hi Marco,

Beautiful work my friend, would love to see some back and side shots of this creation.

With regards the feathers, Mark, Stephen and Jay are all on target, as sorry New Zealand birds are generally not that attractive ;-) Certainly we don't have any species that are as colourful in appearance as South American or African birds that would have this type of plumage. I would therefore strongly recommend you repaint the yellow & blue tipped feathers.

Their were also not many local birds with feathers this size, you do have some options which would be interesting such as speckled brown, black and white from our eagles (maybe not the Great Eagle which was thought to be the largest eagle to ever live: http://www.newzealandeagle.com/). These could also come from sea birds such as albatross (mollymawks), sea gulls or gannets.

For colour maybe only the Kakapo, our large "parrot owl" has bright green, speckled feathers: http://www.nzbirds.com/birds/kakapo.html

Then of course given this subject is based on a more modern maori leader (see next post) you could choose some domestic bird or fowl for the source of the feathers such as a black swan, goose, hen or duck maybe. For full details of the range of NZ birds there is a very good gallery here:
http://www.nzbirds.com/birds/gallery.html - note lots of the more interesting ones are only small birds about the size of sparrows or large pigeons so would not have feathers this size, if any take your interest just give me a yell and I'll see if I can help.


Sorry none of these may seem as bright as your choice for the spotted feathers, given the effort you have put into this it would be a shame not to get the final touches right.

Hope this is helpful.

Mike

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Hi again everyone,

I'd also posted a separate note to Marco on the background to Ta Moko he had chosen, thought you may find it of interest should you be keen to give this bust a go after being inspired by Marco's super rendition. Here it is for your information:

Hi Marco,

That is a very good book and the cover painting by Charles Goldie is superb, he is a top artist and your bust could represent this man in his younger years.
--Edit Note: Reference book used was as mentioned by Phil Walden earlier - HG Robley's "Moko or Maori Tattooing" from 1896 and reprinted in 2005 available on Google Books, at Amazon and our national archive is looking at digitizing and original copy, cover art inspired Marco - see here:
http://www.library.csi.cuny.edu/dept/history/lavender/graphics/mokobook.jpg --

I believe the man you are copying the tattoo of is Te Aho-te-Rangi Wharepu, from the Ngati Mahuta tribe. There is another more famous picture of him in a very happy mood, see this one here:

http://www.firstpeople.us/pictures/g...keha-1905.html
With regards Ta Moko, it is actually all black and the greenish tint is what Goldie used to show highlights.

This is because of the light shining on the skin surface where the ink is less dense and the tattoo has raised areas, see the pictures below:

http://www.firstpeople.us/pictures/g...-day-1901.html
http://www.prints.co.nz/?gclid=CLbx-...FSEaawodtk9u_A
http://www.arikiart.com/new-zealand-...ick_goldie.htm
http://awanderingminstreli.tripod.com/tamoko.htm
http://collection.aucklandartgallery...=object&id=581

Also DO NOT tattoo the lips, I recall now this was only for women "wahine" because they have smaller tattoos.

Again great work and I know it must be hard for you to read my English, but we both speak the language of modelling :)

Any further help, please feel free to email me, details below.

Mike

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Hi Miki, my doubt was cleared, as always, by your help.
In fact my researches on the web for new zealand's birds was a little bit poor of informations.My choice to make the green feathers is born after looking at a site (absolutely I don't remember wich one...) where there was a bird with kind of feathers and I was thinking it was a new zealand's bird. After having painted them I wasn't really satisfied of my work for the reasons all of you have noticed. Now I think I will paint them in a brownish shade...will I be right?
 
The end!

The end, my friends. Thank you all for your great support. Let me make a special thank to Miki fot his great help.
 

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Fantastic work Marco. That's a really great piece with an amazing neat paintwork. The moko is simply superb.

Xenofon
 
Thanks!

Thank you Jay and Denes.
Your suggestion to change the feather's colour was more than right!
Best regards, my friends!
 
Thank you John, Stiff and Christos. It's a great pleasure to receive this positive feedback from all of you my friends!!!
 

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