More about Airbrushes.......

[chailey]

The thing I love most about this forum is finding confusion turn to clarity....and then back again!
Ron, I could never master the guitar and I'm having serious doubts about airbrushes as well....

 

[kagemusha]

The thing I love most about this forum is finding confusion turn to clarity....and then back again!
Ron, I could never master the guitar and I'm having serious doubts about airbrushes as well....

What doubts about airbrushes are you having?

Ron C

 

[chailey]

Old dog & new tricks I suspect, I am looking at a second hand compressor from evil-bay and a new airbrush, just unsure which one at the moment, duel action & top loading gravity fed?

 

[kagemusha]

Old dog & new tricks I suspect, I am looking at a second hand compressor from evil-bay and a new airbrush, just unsure which one at the moment, duel action & top loading gravity fed?

If it helps you.....send me the links and I will have a look at them

Ron C

 

[Alex]

Got an Iwata HP-CH and I love it. but it is 170$
Also, if you can find a used silent compressor (Silentaire, etc.), go for it.
My compressor is under my table and I barely hear it when it is actually working !

Cheers

Alex

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

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Got an Iwata HP-CH and I love it. but it is 170$
Also, if you can find a used silent compressor (Silentaire, etc.), go for it.
My compressor is under my table and I barely hear it when it is actually working !

Cheers

Alex

My compressor sounds like a diesel train

 

[chailey]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322042222015?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Depending on the final price,this would seem like a good enough deal to get me started?

 

[kagemusha]

IMHO....this is not a good buy at any price.....key being the compressor!....it is a single piston (oilless) with no reserve tank....which is a must for any type of constant pressure/flow.....
It will only run for about half an hour before the thermal overload kicks in....you will then have to wait for it to cool down before you can resume spraying....a real pain...especially in hot weather!....
Worse being....as it heats up...you will experience spitting/stuttering....and you will lose control of the paint flow as the hot air causes the paint to dry on the tip of the needle......
At the end of the day....it is your money....I would hate to see you waste it....and never get to enjoy the airbrushing experience at it's best...

Ron C

 

[Eludia]

I'm inclined to agree with Ron on the compressor issue. Especially when just a few more quid will get you something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Best-Sell...597441?hash=item464a8f0441:g:iLwAAOSwmmxW6BE9

 

[kagemusha]

Yep....that works for me

 

[Alex]

For the compressor you absolutely need a tank as kagemusha said.
Most compressors are oil less these days since they are cheap to manufacture.
There are some compressors which run with oil which are near silent when kicking in during the active phase, will last a lifetime and can be used inside when people are sleeping at night.
But they cost a fortune. Sometimes you can find them at auctions for example for much less.
Often used in dentistry.
Cheers
Alex

 

[chailey]

The noise isn't too much of an issue, I'll just get the dogs to bark louder if someone comes to the door, plus this is certainly well within my budget so, as they say 'in for a penny, in for a pound' !
Thank you once again gentlemen...........

Steve

 

[denstore]

Or....you could sell the CM-B....and get the CR Plus 2 in 1....which is a much better AB

I dislike the complete H&S line. Tried all of them except the Colani and Grafo. Hate the triggers of them all.

 

[kagemusha]

I dislike the complete H&S line. Tried all of them except the Colani and Grafo. Hate the triggers of them all.

We all have our own preferences....I personally don't get on with Iwata AB's.....what works for some etc.
H&S 2in1 plus is not a 'trigger' AB!....so I feel it is a valid recommendation

 

[denstore]

We all have our own preferences....I personally don't get on with Iwata AB's.....what works for some etc.
H&S 2in1 plus is not a 'trigger' AB!....so I feel it is a valid recommendation

I would say that all airbrushes have triggers of some sort. Most have top mounted triggers, others pistol grip triggers.

 

[kagemusha]

I would say that all airbrushes have triggers of some sort. Most have top mounted triggers, others pistol grip triggers.

And I would say most have a 'plunger'.....although...in the main.....manufacturers list it as the 'lever'.......does it really matter what it's called

 

[denstore]

Some call it lever (Iwata, H&S), some call it trigger (Badger, Paasche). Doesn't matter that much. But either way, H&S has IMHO a wobbly, imprecise trigger/lever/plunger or whatever anyone would like to call it.

 

[kagemusha]

Some call it lever (Iwata, H&S), some call it trigger (Badger, Paasche). Doesn't matter that much. But either way, H&S has IMHO a wobbly, imprecise trigger/lever/plunger or whatever anyone would like to call it.

Your entitled to your opinion.....as am I....and I happen to disagree with your statement regards H&S....especially where the CR Plus 2in1 is concerned....

 

[Kevindunne]

All informative indeed. I intend to use an airdrush for undercoating with acrylics, larger bigures and busts before I do my Oil thing...still musing it all over...

 

[martin tabony]

Youtube is full of airbrushing videos, everything from car painters and tank modellers to gamesworkshop.

Martin