New Jeff Shiu's Miniatures, SS-Schutze Kampgruppe Hanson 1944

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Von Bock

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Hello friends,
I have received a surprise from Jeff. It's a 1/16th figure SS-Schutze Kampgruppe Hanson 1944. He hopes you will enjoy this release. And as always he's got more figures in the works. Regards Brock

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Thanks to the the iconic photograph, he is, perhaps, the most recognizable German character during the Battle of the Bulge. Some have I.D. him most probably as Hans Tragarsky from Kampgruppe Hanson:


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And, btw, this classic portrait is indeed a crop. Many other images of him exist, just google his name, and many other figures of him too: Including Dragon iconic 1/6 and also Dragon 1/16 in injection molded plastic.


It is not an easy task, to portrait someone so well known, but in my honest opinion, Jeff nailed a cracking job! All tiredness and fatigue of the real combatant are there. Would love to see a painted version upon presentation :)

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Nice, I hope he decides to do 3-4 of the group. IMO this is the best example of this subject in miniature.

This guy is so popular - wonder why?
Sometimes a photo is just so...perfect, and encompasses the moment that it sticks in peoples minds. Just like the Iwo Jima flag raising, which is one brief moment in an entire event that was also captured on motion picture film. A second earlier or later, and who knows if its so popular. The difference of course is that the Kampgruppe Hansen photos were staged propaganda shots.
 
I think that guy must be the most iconic German soldier from WWII :)
Jeff's figures are all top quality, and this looks to be no exception. It will surely be popular.
I still live in hope that Jeff will someday turn his masterful talents to Allied 1/16 subjects... :unsure:
 
Being a propaganda shot - like the Iwo flag raising btw - this guy sports some unusual garments: A mish-mash of US and German equipment. So maybe because of that the model market made him a "celebrity".
The way he carries the machinegun is not easy to catch and Dragon nailed it so far in my eyes. Jeff did still a great job and I am not surprised that he chose this subject for his line - he seems to be fascinated by Machinegunners as a rule. Therefore he should revise the size of the ammo rounds (or the other way around the scale of the MG 42) IMHO. They are slightly too large when compared to the scale of the machine gun and it stands out on this model for the way the ammo belt is carried.
Very nice release - and keep those Germans coming Jeff!
Cheers, Martin
 
Being a propaganda shot - like the Iwo flag raising btw...
How was the Iwo Jima flag raising picture a propaganda shot? There was a motion picture cameraman standing right next to Joe Rosenthal at the moment the flag went up, and captured virtually the same image as part of his filming. In fact Joe almost missed the shot and just happened to take the picture when he did out of sure luck. They didn't prompt the shot, set it up, stage it or do it multiple times. There were 2 flag raising's, but the second was done because the first flag was too small to be seen well, and someone in charge directed that a different flag be raised (and he wanted the first one for himself) . Rosenthal wouldn't have even captured the iconic photo without the second flag raising, as he was late to the party and missed the first. The ambush shot were all staged, fake and setup. Perhaps the Iwo flag raising picture was used later on as "propaganda" because it was so iconic, but the circumstances behind how it was captured and how the "ambush" photos came to be are 2 entirely different circumstances. One was luck, the other was not.
 
Very realistic figure, remember me the great figure (200 mm from warrior's scale models) released long time ago by the master Jon Rosengrant inspired by the same image


That one is still today on the top of my list. John Rosengrant excelled himself. It's a pity that the Warriors 200mm range is so long gone and unfindable these days since Bob Letterman sold VLS to Squadron Signal.
 
Being a propaganda shot - like the Iwo flag raising btw...
How was the Iwo Jima flag raising picture a propaganda shot?
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Maybe it becomes clear how many attempts were taken to get the final image "right". If that fulfills the criteria of a propaganda shot might of course be a matter of personal views on this topic.
There was a real action at Poteau before the pics were taken.... the soldiers on the pics do not seem to be geared up in another way than they looked when there was no camera around.
Whatever - back to the model.
Cheers, Martin
 
Here the original photo, taken at the Bulge in 1944...:



The gun in his Hand is not a german pistol but a US booty, I think a "Colt M 1911"-

Cheers
 
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Maybe it becomes clear how many attempts were taken to get the final image "right". If that fulfills the criteria of a propaganda shot might of course be a matter of personal views on this topic.
There was a real action at Poteau before the pics were taken.... the soldiers on the pics do not seem to be geared up in another way than they looked when there was no camera around.
Whatever - back to the model.
Cheers, Martin
Nope not even close to being the same. Those are a series of photos of 2 different events, one the original flag raising, and the second raising. Neither were done at the behest of a propaganda photo team or staged by them, just photographed by a photographer who was tagging along. All of the action at Poteau that was photographed was staged, the propaganda team telling them to run here, do this, do that, act this way, with no Americans left around. There are cropped photos of guys acting like they are "attacking" across the road (going the wrong/opposite direction of previous photosl) with a camera man walking nonchalantly in a ditch in the background. The guys in the flag raising photo with the M1 Carbine were actually shot at and beat back a Japanese attack right after that photo was taken.

Here the original photo, taken at the Bulge in 1944...:



The gun in his Hand is not a german pistol but a US booty, I think a "Colt M 1911"-

Cheers
Browning Hi-Power in 9mm, used by both the allies and Germans,who captured them in occupied Belgium (where they were originally made) and designated them the Pistole 640(b).

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"This was a propaganda shot / That wasn't a propaganda shot / Yes it was / No it wasn't / blah blah blah ..."

WHO CARES??!!!!!!

This thread is about the figure, and it's an absolute cracker - one of Jeff's best yet IMHO. And I shall be placing an order today.

- Steve
 
Ok
I will be getting this!!!
I'm sure in person it is fine as I have many of Jeff's figures and they are great
But the front on shot looks a little odd, may just be the pic
Would like if he did all the figures from the 1/35 Dragon box art with his figure in it
 

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