mick3272
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Wow! Now that is good!
Hi Roger.
Sorry mate I missed you.
Wow is the word it has come out a treat.
thanks for looking
Mick
New Micks Micks Bust Officer 8th Royal Irish Hussars
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Hi Roger.
Sorry mate I missed you.
Wow is the word it has come out a treat.
thanks for looking
Mick
mick3272
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Superb news with this great piece! Very fine sculpture! Impatient to see box art
You and me both mate.
Thanks for looking in.
Mick
juan antonio perez
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Woooowww!!! Amazing my friend!! COngrats to Mick and you!!
mick3272
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Thank you Juan.
Yes it is a little cracker.
Thank you
Mick
Yes it is a little cracker.
Thank you
Mick
mick3272
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Just thought I would add this close up of the head and cap Badge.
Mick
Mick
mick3272
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Yes I agree 100% Chris. Offo certainly pulled this one out of the bag.
Thanks for your kind comment.
Mick
mick3272
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Two ( Centre) Swagger Sticks or whip tops for the *th Royal Irish Hussars.
The one on the left is nearer the time in question the one on the right later.
Below Pic of a cavalry man ? 2nd Dragoons holding a riding whip / crop
Mick
The one on the left is nearer the time in question the one on the right later.
Below Pic of a cavalry man ? 2nd Dragoons holding a riding whip / crop
Mick
Hi Mick
nice information there mate ...any pics of original swaggers in ful length ?
Can't see the close up of the cap and badge for some reason ..checking the post there is no picture actually showing uploaded ?
Nap
nice information there mate ...any pics of original swaggers in ful length ?
Can't see the close up of the cap and badge for some reason ..checking the post there is no picture actually showing uploaded ?
Nap
mick3272
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Hi Nap.
TRy this link and scroll down http://theirishgrenadier.com/Gallery.php
Cant find anything else for the 8th but will look & post some pics of cavalry swagger sticks riding whips /crops
Mick
mick3272
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I have just found this rather interesting picture on The British Empire Website of the Officer of the 8th Royal Irish Hussars taken in Ireland in 1870. I agree it is some 20yrs earlier. But you will note that although the Officers are wearing Frock Coats The officer Centre second rear row is wearing the " Cap lines "on the front of the coat even then. Also the Officer Front rank third from Right with his leg crossed is holding a Blackthorn walking stick ( May be another far right.) the remainder appear to be holding sticks or whips.
Colonel Macnaghten sits in the middle of this group for a photo taken in Ireland in 1870. He, like most of the officers wears a blue frock coat and pillbox forage cap. He is the only officer, so dressed, to have rank badges on his coat collar, a crown and star, denoting full colonel according to the 1864 Dress Regulations. The four officers wearing a dress tunic also have rank badges. The seated one on the right is a lieutenant with a crown on a row of gold lace. The gold chain lace on the front of his tunic is not placed in straight lines like the others but curved in the style of some Yeomanry regiments. But he definitely is an 8th Hussar officer because we have a clear view of his sabretache. This item appears to be Sabretache 1856 although the battle honours are unclear and the shamrock lace is sewn along the top as well as the sides and bottom. His trousers are leather booted, about 8 inches high on the outside, but going up to the knee on the inside.
The officer behind the lieutenant has a star rank badge on his collar but the collar has a row of gold lace and dense braiding which means that he is a major. The elaborate braiding on his cuff also indicates field officer rank, and he has medals for the Crimean War and Indian Mutiny. The busby is of black sable fur and the white over red plume is supposed to be 8 inches high but looks more like 10 inches. The officer in the middle who wears a forage cap with his dress tunic, is a captain. His rank badges are a crown and star on a collar less braided than the major. His cuff braiding is half visible and consists of small circlets around the edge of the Austrian knot. He has a medal for the Mutiny, and his trousers are unleathered, for dismounted duty. The officer on the left of the photo in dress uniform is also a captain.
The most interesting feature of the photo is the patrol jacket. Careful study of the picture reveals three officers wearing this garment, but there are two styles, neither of which resembles the better known version that was adopted towards the end of the century. Patrol jackets for hussar regiments all had black astrakan fur collars and cuffs but the style of jacket varied from one regiment to another. One of the officers, standing third from the right has black cords plaited across his chest. This style can also be seen (just) on another officer standing at the back, fourth from the left, obscured by two officers in front of him.
But between him and the captain with the medal is an officer wearing the other type of patrol jacket. This has large flat black mohair lace across the chest, somewhat similar to the lace on the frock coats but closer together so that none of the blue coat material shows through. The six falling buttonhole ends are on one side only, corresponding with olivet buttons on the other side. There are cords hanging from the neck which are looped up to the opposite shoulder.
The last type of uniform is stable dress, worn by the officer standing near Macnachten's right shoulder. The waist-length jacket has slim gold braid down the front, along the bottom edge, round top and bottom of the collar, and up the back seams. The cuffs are decorated with small loops of braid. He has leathered trousers and wears no sword belt. The pouch-belt is the same as worn in dress.
The officer behind the lieutenant has a star rank badge on his collar but the collar has a row of gold lace and dense braiding which means that he is a major. The elaborate braiding on his cuff also indicates field officer rank, and he has medals for the Crimean War and Indian Mutiny. The busby is of black sable fur and the white over red plume is supposed to be 8 inches high but looks more like 10 inches. The officer in the middle who wears a forage cap with his dress tunic, is a captain. His rank badges are a crown and star on a collar less braided than the major. His cuff braiding is half visible and consists of small circlets around the edge of the Austrian knot. He has a medal for the Mutiny, and his trousers are unleathered, for dismounted duty. The officer on the left of the photo in dress uniform is also a captain.
The most interesting feature of the photo is the patrol jacket. Careful study of the picture reveals three officers wearing this garment, but there are two styles, neither of which resembles the better known version that was adopted towards the end of the century. Patrol jackets for hussar regiments all had black astrakan fur collars and cuffs but the style of jacket varied from one regiment to another. One of the officers, standing third from the right has black cords plaited across his chest. This style can also be seen (just) on another officer standing at the back, fourth from the left, obscured by two officers in front of him.
But between him and the captain with the medal is an officer wearing the other type of patrol jacket. This has large flat black mohair lace across the chest, somewhat similar to the lace on the frock coats but closer together so that none of the blue coat material shows through. The six falling buttonhole ends are on one side only, corresponding with olivet buttons on the other side. There are cords hanging from the neck which are looped up to the opposite shoulder.
The last type of uniform is stable dress, worn by the officer standing near Macnachten's right shoulder. The waist-length jacket has slim gold braid down the front, along the bottom edge, round top and bottom of the collar, and up the back seams. The cuffs are decorated with small loops of braid. He has leathered trousers and wears no sword belt. The pouch-belt is the same as worn in dress.
Mick
mick3272
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Hi
I have shown above images of the Patrol Jacket Offo had to work on. So I thought that you may like to see what info he had to work on the head-dress.
Mick
I have shown above images of the Patrol Jacket Offo had to work on. So I thought that you may like to see what info he had to work on the head-dress.
The field service cap worn by the hussars, the first pattern cap (also known as “Torin” or “Austrian” pattern) was also to be dark blue The edges and top were trimmed in gold Russia braid.
The Picture above is of an 8th Hussar Officer post 1894 Note the Button on the front
Position & how to wear the Field service Cap Only as not 8th hussars but a 20th Hussar.
Below shows the finished head & hat paying attention to the cap badge.
Mick
Mick
Great information and pictures mate
Still can't see the badge detail picture though ?
Nap
Might be tempted to add ribbons on my one ..if I can see references of them on the sculpted uniform pelise
Great information and pictures mate
Still can't see the badge detail picture though ?
Nap
Might be tempted to add ribbons on my one ..if I can see references of them on the sculpted uniform pelise
mick3272
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mick3272
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Hi Kev
Do you mean the badge on the cane. is so try this link http://theirishgrenadier.com/Gallery.php
and scroll down to the very bottom of the page. its 7th or 8th item from the bottom.
If you mean the cap badge I had to go by the pic being shown on uniformology for the clarity and position.
Mick
mick3272
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Hi Kev
Re gong/s
I have not found any pics of Patrol Jackets of this design showing medals /medal ribbons. Bearing in mind this is an undress uniform. In the pic above you can see ribbons on some of the frock coats but this is some 20yrs earlier and on a different type of coat.
As for the medal maybe Afghan medal as they were with Lord Roberts between 1879 -1889 ???????
Mick
Hi Mick
I have been looking also ..lots ...nothing ....as yet
Shame it's not the frock coat ...or maybe that's planned later in the releases ....wink wink !...LOL
Thanks for trying
Nap
I have been looking also ..lots ...nothing ....as yet
Shame it's not the frock coat ...or maybe that's planned later in the releases ....wink wink !...LOL
Thanks for trying
Nap
