One Nice Thing About Winter...

[sd0324]

As you're working down the list.
Calling us ladies isn't very mature, just because we disagree with you blood lust.
Question sexuality, is hardly any form of consolation for the fact you have prove your machismo by shooting.

Well, I left you out because you were polite,but okay. Your ancestors eradicated wolves and feral dogs for a reason. A lesson you do not remember.Hunting is not about blood lust,that is just a silly thing to say. "Question sexuality" ...ha,it was a light note,so lighten up Nancy. It is a comical statement that you think I prove my machismo by shooting....do you ever go shooting or is that not allowed? I work a very serious job and use shooting/hunting and painting as a nice escape. If you equate shooting and hunting with blood lust,you need to get out more. I apologized once.

 

[sd0324]

My avatar is me drawn as a zombie, in Walking Dead style. Im sure many here can confirm the likeness. The "uncomfortableness" comes probably from being qustioned?

I never questioned that you are close to nature. My first post stated very clearly that I understood that there sometimes is a need to do this. But I still dont think postings of dead wolves should get "way to go" or similar reactions.

Hunting is prohibited here in closely populated areas where I live, dont like to have bullets swishing around my head when Im at home, even if a have a few licensed weapons they are primarly for target shooting never the less, one could hunt with them. If I have the landowners permission, its within season and I have a hunters license. You see, we dont let anyone who can buy a firearm roam around freely to perform animal cruelty with non clean shots. Baglimit is another problem that would occur. Besides, elk is very dry to eat. Only with a rich creamy sauce and some wild berries is it eatable.

I dont feel sad when fishing or when killing animals, neihter do I feel superior, glad or horny. Perhaps maybe confident sometimes, but that is probably because the ability to feed from the land gives you confidence. Still, it isnt something I do for fun. Or go around bragging about.

What I tried to point out is that when you take out a species in an area it affects other species as well. Usually in a bad way as balance has developed for hundred of years if not more.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

And these wolves you so dearly miss would soon learn they are not being hunted or threatened and would soon quit hunting wild game and come to your backyards and farms for easier prey. You forget that man is a big part of nature also...

 

[sd0324]

As you're working down the list.
Calling us ladies isn't very mature, just because we disagree with you blood lust.
Question sexuality, is hardly any form of consolation for the fact you have prove your machismo by shooting.

I also find it quite telling that you guys seem to equate guns with some sort of sexuality. To me they are tools. Hmmm...

 

[Uruk-Hai]

And these wolves you so dearly miss would soon learn they are not being hunted or threatened and would soon quit hunting wild game and come to your backyards and farms for easier prey. You forget that man is a big part of nature also...

Where do you get that I miss them? I just dont think it was something to brag about or even less to feel proud about. Should I post pictures of the roadkill I have to deliver "Coup de grace" to? What you forget is that man is the one that comes short in the end if natures balance is disrupted.

They way you so outgoing defend yourself actually makes me think that there wasnt a need for this kill? And what about calling us Ladies, do you think you are our Drill Sergeant or something?

How can you feel so agrivated towars an animal? Animals does not do what they do on a purpose, just instinct.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

 

[sd0324]

Yes I am a drill instructor with malice towards animals and I do what I do on instinct also. And I did not defend until attacked,strange concept....you win,you are far more evolved than I. Let us paint men of war together and not wantonly slaughter.

 

[housecarl]

I didn't say that, I meant I have no need to kill things to prove my virility.
As they say an inch can fill a pram, and you wouldn't like it as a wart on your nose.

 

[sd0324]

I didn't say that, I meant I have no need to kill things to prove my virility.
As they say an inch can fill a pram, and you wouldn't like it as a wart on your nose.

And what the hell is a pram? Or should I be offended.

 

[DEL]

Okay you are next,if you think I am some fatass who gets handed a rifle....wow. You really have no idea the sport involved,I removed said pic and apologized for offending all you ladies,these were not innocent little doggies and the pic was not that bad. No apologies here.

Help ma boab I'm next Can you actually understand anything you read ? At no point did I refer to you I was clearly speaking about the 'one day' tourist experience........actually I can't be bothered trying to explain....

 

[sd0324]

Help ma boab I'm next Can you actually understand anything you read ? At no point did I refer to you I was clearly speaking about the 'one day' tourist experience........actually I can't be bothered trying to explain....

Cool,I apologized,now let us paint figures of people who kill one another, and yes I do understand what I read,thanks for the insult. No need to explain. Your meaning was quite clear.

 

[DEL]

Cool,I apologized,now let us paint figures of people who kill one another, and yes I do understand what I read,thanks for the insult. No need to explain. Your meaning was quite clear.

Clearly not......you seem to have a remarkable talent for alienating people who take a reasonably balanced view for the need to have organised controlled hunting as a management process to ensure species health.......by the way I'm talking about myself here

 

[sd0324]

Clearly not......you seem to have a remarkable talent for alienating people who take a reasonably balanced view for the need to have organised controlled hunting as a management process to ensure species health.......by the way I'm talking about myself here

Far too sensitive for a guy who smartly commented to me I was being too sensitive.

 

[DEL]

Far too sensitive for a guy who smartly commented to me I was being too sensitive.

Sensitive me...... that'll give a few people here a laugh......well done

 

[sd0324]

Sensitive me...... that'll give a few people here a laugh......well done

You Sir are a good sport. I can tell you are not British. I like you.

 

[DEL]

You Sir are a good sport. I can tell you are not British. I like you.

Absolutely right...I'm a Glaswegian...no mean city

 

[sd0324]

Absolutely right...I'm a Glaswegian...no mean city

I knew it.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Yes I am a drill instructor with malice towards animals and I do what I do on instinct also. And I did not defend until attacked,strange concept....you win,you are far more evolved than I. Let us paint men of war together and not wantonly slaughter.

Acually, believe it or not, I expect more of you. You are not on the same level as an animal. Typing on the internet proves that.
But what you fail to understand or aknowledge are that we are not painting any real men slaughtering each others, its not real, just like in most movies, it is just small statues made of different materials. Thus had the dead coyotes been miniatures had I not protested.

I dont know if I more evolved than you, but by the look of this discussion I seem to be more logical, polite, on-topic and smarter. Keep the names coming, you will surely get symphaties and win the argument with that tactic.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

 

[sd0324]

Acually, believe it or not, I expect more of you. You are not on the same level as an animal. Typing on the internet proves that.
But what you fail to understand or aknowledge are that we are not painting any real men slaughtering each others, its not real, just like in most movies, it is just small statues made of different materials. Thus had the dead coyotes been miniatures had I not protested.

I dont know if I more evolved than you, but by the look of this discussion I seem to be more logical, polite, on-topic and smarter. Keep the names coming, you will surely get symphaties and win the argument with that tactic.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

You know, I was the one attacked here,tried to be polite,then tried to be humorous. Then even admitted your superior intellect and popularity. Now go back to your state controlled government provided apartment and leave me be. You could never understand how it feels to be a free man . I admitted the pic may have been a mistake to post,but quit acting like this is some sort of animal abuse or wanton slaughter. Do some research on Coyotes in America. Jesus Christ,grow a pair.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

You know, I was the one attacked here,tried to be polite,then tried to be humorous. Then even admitted your superior intellect and popularity. Now go back to your state controlled government provided apartment and leave me be. You could never understand how it feels to be a free man . I admitted the pic may have been a mistake to post,but quit acting like this is some sort of animal abuse or wanton slaughter. Do some research on Coyotes in America. Jesus Christ,grow a pair.

You where not attacked. Not by me. Although I do think Tecumsea´s comments where abusive and uncalled for. But you still dont see you part of it, even if you do say that you apologize, you dont mean it, and keep calling us names. You are using sarcasm, irony and pretending to be stupid and in an underdog position. Trying to imply that you are more man than I, and more free? What kind of man does even have to suggest such thing? And what does it have to do with the topic? And even if it was true, why would you bother?

And should you find some nonsence answer if its relevant, please go on and explain to me what the kind of Goverment we have here in Sweden has anything to do with this topic? And I live in a house that I own, for the record. And I decide when I leave you to be. And it wont happen until you stop posting such crappy and ignorant post as you have recently. I do like to think that I know a lot more of North America than you do of my country. At least I understand the language and have visited it a few times.

I have no idea it this was animal abuse or wanton slaugher? It is actually you who make it sound like it was with your posts in this topic? I actually considered posting picturial evidence here to contradict the last suggestion in your post. But again, like the dead coyotes, I dont think its a wise thing to do.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

 

[pmfs]

Humans kill animals for eating, coyotes kill also for eating and there is no diference.
One of the biggest diference between man vs animal is that some man´s are rational and acting in a way quite different from the animal, so we have to use your intelligence to control our behavior - the man has intelligence, awareness and ability to analyze their actions, perform their tasks, plan activities and put them into practice....
Who kills for killing certainly has a mental problem that needs quick treatment....

 

[DEL]

I thought this might result in some passionate 'debate' and the use of some extreme 'what ifs' to illustrate individuals positions on the matter.
For myself I don't hunt but I do understand the need for a range of control measures to be in place in certain situations, I don't understand the 'sport' involved.
Wild animals are more likely than ever to come in contact with humans than ever before primarily due to our impact on their environment, destruction of habitat, the amount of waste we generate, the building of roads..the list goes on. The reality is we are where we are and it seems that more often now we hear of situations where there are 'problem' individual animals and possibly even packs and the situation needs to be controlled. This is why effective, enforced and sensible legislation needs to be in place.
As I've said before context is vital, no need to list the reprehensible outrages we see contantly and in these situations the context is clear although the chain of responsibility extends well beyond the hunter.
In the UK our problem in terms of animal human contact is relatively minor and is primarily to do with foxes particularly where they have moved into the urban environment where there seems to be an increasing occurence of foxes attacking domestic animals and in recent cases children. Now the vast majority of these stories will be apocryphal but not all.
Humane control falls to the Royal Society for Protection of Cruelty to Animals who have very good guidelines on living with foxes in town situations. Previously where a problem was identified many local authorities would destroy the fox, however as society has become more knowledgable about them this action is rarely if ever carried out.
My concern is that where there is a lack of policy and strategy then people might take matters into their own hands, setting traps, laying out poisons or worst of all, taking pot shots with entirely unsuitable weapons.
In Scotland we have a substantial Red Deer population that requires to be periodically 'culled' to reduce the risk of starvation and disease. Numbers vary depending on who you talk to about it, Heritage conservation groups say 300,000 or so, Gamekeepers say up to 700,000.......do you think there are vested interests operating here?
I've never killed a red deer but they've nearly killed me twice. Once when one jumped on to the bonnet of my car as I drove the family past Loch Maree in the west highlands of Scotland and the other time when I choked on a venison burger at Murrayfield ...... I don't eat venison any more
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