Painting camo jacket on S&T Luftwaffe Fig.

[Pete_H]

Dave,
The rain pattern appears randomly over the entire pattern, but is rather thick in appearance. Check out the following link for further online references: http://www.fjr5.com/ The picture I posted here was taken directly from their website, and can be found under "all uniforms" and then "Normandy 1944". As for the shadows, try sepia straight from the tube, but used very sparingly and then feathered out over the pattern where the shadows would normally appear. Remember: you want to darken the camo pattern and not obscure it completely.

Hope this helps .....

 

[D.Lesko]

Thanks for the help Pete, sorry to be a pain , im just having a hard time with this figure for some reason. I think the lines i painted in the rain pattern look a bit think but i had difficulty painting them any smaller. Ill try to go back and add some more on the brown and green and maybe tighten it up a bit. Maybe i should have picked something easier for my first camo attempt

 

[amherbert]

Dave, welcome to the world of German camo!

It's very tough to do well, I've found. I enjoy the 'peas' pattern personally!

The second attempt looks better. The brown patches still look a bit too round.

Hey Pete, is that reenactor jacket accurate?

There are some good pics of the pattern here:
Whermacht Zeltbahn
And they are from original items, not reproductions.
I looked at some of the repro sites, and the greens look really wrong.

The colors faded a lot too from photos I've seen (whether from dirt and/or laundering, I'm not sure).

Cheers
Andy

 

[Pete_H]

Andy,
I believe it's a repro, so that would explain why the colors (particularly the green) look so bright. Also, it's a jumpsmock and not a zeltbahn.

Thanks for the link. It's going into my online references

 

[amherbert]

Originally posted by Pete_H@Oct 25 2004, 02:18 PM
...Also, it's a jumpsmock and not a zeltbahn....

Same pattern though. And I wonder if it was the same material?

Dave,
a decent source for the colors and patterns is on DML 1/35 figure box art by Ron Voldstad. He does his homework and you can see the patterns clearly for a minor investment in a set of the Luftwaffe Field Division figures.

Cheers
Andy

 

[D.Lesko]

Thanks for all the help guys. Here is the latest update to the jacket. Ive added more of the rain pattern, its a lot finer then it was but doesnt show up well in the photos. Ive also redone the shading. The backpack straps, are they leather or cloth? Should they be painted as leather or the backpack color, which i believe is Field Grey. Thanks guys. Comments welcome

 

[Anders Heintz]

Hey Dave!

Looking good so far, you have really worked hard at correcting thing which is a great thing to see! Keep it up!

 

[gary]

The greens are looking better Dave.

Here's a couple of links for the rucksack.

http://www.german-militaria.com/images/LWRucksacksmall1.jpg
http://www.german-militaria.com/images/LWRucksacksmall2.jpg
(Late war production variation of the simplified design known as the “Bicycle” or “Artillery” rucksack. The simple bag is produced out of blue grey cotton canvas with strap close flap over a drawstring interior. The black leather shoulder straps have the “quick release” style metal clips at their ends. These straps appear to be of depot rework with rivet reinforcements and attaching through the interior drawstring.)

or this one

http://www.german-militaria.com/images/LWRucksack.jpg
http://www.german-militaria.com/images/LWRucksack3.jpg
(Wartime issue, large pattern rucksack is produced out of blue grey cotton canvas with fittings and straps of black leather. Its divided interior is complete with drawstring and a buckled rear flap. This flap has leather attachment tabs as well as two outside compartments below. It is complete with both shoulder straps having steel belt clips and 1942 dated makers marking on the rear leather panel.)

As for the green 'rainstreaks,' it might be possible to do this with a Prismacolor pencil in the right shade of green.

Gary

 

[D.Lesko]

Hi guys. Well, the figure is coming along quite well. Ive finshed the shirt and pants along with the boots. Here is a photo of the figures full body. Any thoughts or suggestions are most welcome, thanks!

 

[Guy]

My only thought is........."How can I paint that good?"

Well done Dave........a really super looking job you have done.

 

[Jimmy S]

I like it!!! Dave ref all the previous threads on the raindrop lines did you consider one of those micro pens? I saw it on a modern E german pattern and it looked pretty good.

PS Pity the head wasn't attached so we could put up 500 posts on skin tones (joke)

 

[Lou Masses]

Alright Lesko. I remember you posteing 2 years ago that you coudn't paint because you were a "fantasy vinyl guy". Now I can say "BS". You could paint then and you can paint now. Good work buddy and keep it up. Camo is not easy, just ask Pete H!

 

[Anders Heintz]

Great Work Dave! You make me want to spend some doe and pick this beauty up! If I only had time!!!

 

[D.Lesko]

Thanks for the compliments guys, i really appreciate it. Question: Ive painted the helmet its basic color in oils and shaded it but i want to make it look banged up and have no clue on how to go about this. Can you please give me some hints on how to weather the helmet? Would it have rust? Scratches? Also, how do you paint the eagle symbol on the jacket? And lastly, ive seen some pictures of actual jackets with blue shoulder bars, would this one have them? Dont know where to begin....thanks!

 

[Jim Patrick]

Dave, I too remember something along the line that "you can't paint". I have to echo Lou's thoughts. B.S. For someone who claimed he couldn't paint, you sure have done a terrific job so far! As far as your questions on the helmet and uniform, I honestly don't know. But, I do know someone who pops in here once in awhile who does know a lot about painting helmets and WWII German uniforms. Chris Mrosko. Look in some of his v-bench posts. He did a terrific job on a helmet not too long ago. Check over there but regardless which road you choose, I'm sure it will turn out just fine like the rest of your figure has so far.

Good Luck,
Jim Patrick

 

[D.Lesko]

Thanks for the compliments Jim, we'll see how this figure look after i try to paint the skin tones . I looked in Chris' VBench and all of the pictures he's posted have been deleted. Any have any ideas on how to do the helmet weathering and the eagle insignia on the jacket? Thanks!

 

[homellop]

Hi Dave.
The breast eagle.
It's not the same cloth but the same eagle.
HTH

 

[homellop]

some ideas for the helmet

 

[homellop]

more

 

[homellop]

another one
HTH