quang
A Fixture
Here it is at last:
–FA-12 – TAMPA RED – Seminole – 1835
14-part resin kit. Scale: 120mm (1/15)
Sculpted by Le-van Quang
Available: August 2006
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Here it is at last:
–FA-12 – TAMPA RED – Seminole – 1835
14-part resin kit. Scale: 120mm (1/15)
Sculpted by Le-van Quang
Available: August 2006
Guy
A Fixture
FA-12 TAMPA RED Seminole 1835
Available: early August 2006
"An amalgam of several south-eastern tribes and runaway slaves, the Seminole
were a socio-political alliance with familial, cultural and linguistic ties.
Their resistance to the forced removal from their lands in Georgia and
Florida led to the costliest war the US government ever waged against the
natives.
The 120 mm figure depicts a warrior during the Second Florida war wearing
the typical long shirt and bandolier bag and armed with a hunting rifle.
A cast scenic base is also included in the 14-part kit."
I hope you like the figure and am looking forward to the pleasure of reading
your comments.
Quang
Available: early August 2006
"An amalgam of several south-eastern tribes and runaway slaves, the Seminole
were a socio-political alliance with familial, cultural and linguistic ties.
Their resistance to the forced removal from their lands in Georgia and
Florida led to the costliest war the US government ever waged against the
natives.
The 120 mm figure depicts a warrior during the Second Florida war wearing
the typical long shirt and bandolier bag and armed with a hunting rifle.
A cast scenic base is also included in the 14-part kit."
I hope you like the figure and am looking forward to the pleasure of reading
your comments.
Quang
captnenglish
A Fixture
Like I said over on another forum, I might just paint my first Native American
Bluesking
A Fixture
Hey Elwood,
Another brother for my collection
Jake
Another brother for my collection
Jake
Kandor8
Well-Known Member
At last a VERY nice larger scale Seminole Indian. The last fairly decent rendering of this subject, that I can racall, was the 75mm figure by Amati back in the 80's. It's interesting that you nicknamed him "Tampa Red" because there was a blues singer-guitarist by that name back in the thirties. Looking forward to having it on my workbench soon!
Best!
Ric
Best!
Ric
Markus
A Fixture
@Quang: Absoulutly stunning sculpture !!! I love it..... 
@Guy: Thanks for posting this excellent indian warrior. I´m looking forward to see it painted from your talented hands, sometimes in the future...
Best wishes,
Markus
@Guy: Thanks for posting this excellent indian warrior. I´m looking forward to see it painted from your talented hands, sometimes in the future...
Best wishes,
Markus
quang
A Fixture
Thank you all for your comments.
The painting was done rather hastily but I hope that some dedicated painter will find this figure worthy of a better treatment.
The same goes with the groundwork. The figure is posed on a partially immersed tree stump. All that's needed is some artificial murky water to recreate the atmosphere of the Florida swamp country. (To be 100% historically correct, the Seminoles didn't occupy the Everglades until the end of the 19th century, BUT for better or for worse, the Seminoles will always be associated with the swamp country in the public imagination.)
Another misconception is the colourful, multi-layered appliqué costume of the Seminoles. This only came into being in the 20th century with the introduction of the sewing machine. The figure is set in 1835 at the beginning of the Second Seminole War when south-eastern (notably Creek) influences were still prevalent. In fact with a few modifications (notably in the beadwork), he can easily pass for a Creek warrior of the 1812 War (Tecumseh...).
Ric: You caught me red-handed as several of my figures' names are music (blues and rock) -related: Amos Garrett, Little Wing, Yellow Moon, Sam Stone, Iron Hand,...
The fact with Seminole names is that most were given by the Europeans so why not Tampa Red as it evokes Florida? But to be frank with you, I never suspected that anyone but the hardcore blues fan would know who the original TR was!
Cheers,
Quang
The painting was done rather hastily but I hope that some dedicated painter will find this figure worthy of a better treatment.
The same goes with the groundwork. The figure is posed on a partially immersed tree stump. All that's needed is some artificial murky water to recreate the atmosphere of the Florida swamp country. (To be 100% historically correct, the Seminoles didn't occupy the Everglades until the end of the 19th century, BUT for better or for worse, the Seminoles will always be associated with the swamp country in the public imagination.)
Another misconception is the colourful, multi-layered appliqué costume of the Seminoles. This only came into being in the 20th century with the introduction of the sewing machine. The figure is set in 1835 at the beginning of the Second Seminole War when south-eastern (notably Creek) influences were still prevalent. In fact with a few modifications (notably in the beadwork), he can easily pass for a Creek warrior of the 1812 War (Tecumseh...).
Ric: You caught me red-handed as several of my figures' names are music (blues and rock) -related: Amos Garrett, Little Wing, Yellow Moon, Sam Stone, Iron Hand,...
The fact with Seminole names is that most were given by the Europeans so why not Tampa Red as it evokes Florida? But to be frank with you, I never suspected that anyone but the hardcore blues fan would know who the original TR was!
Cheers,
Quang
garyjd
PlanetFigure Supporter
Quang, Congratulations on another figure well done. I really like the pose. Thanks for also pointing out all the particulars on the dress worn by the Seminoles and the habitat they live/lived in.~Gary
Kreston
Well-Known Member
Quang, would Sam Stone be named after the character in a John Prine song?
Kreston
Kreston
quang
A Fixture
Indeed, Kreston. It harks back to the time when I was young and angry. :lol:
Quang
Quang
Bruno
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Hi Quang,
as I alreday post in another forum, your figurine are great!
Your work is an exasmple how to create athentic Indian figurines which represents the culture and herritage of this peole.
My highest compliments!!!
Let me add some information on the history of the Seminols of Florida.
The Seminols always shelterd runawy slaves. About 10% of the Seminol tribes were black people ore had black roots. The Seminols don't know racism and accepted the black people as full right members of the tribe.
It was Gen. Andrew Jackson who used the runawy slaves as a excuse to loot and burn Seminol villages.
When Jackson become President of the USA, the extermination of the Native Tribes started in a large scale form.
About 3000 Seminols were forced together with Cherokee, Chickasawa, Coctawa and Creek to leave her territory westwards. The Indians were herded like cattle, withaut foot ore blakets. Thousends died on the "Trail of Tears" on diseas and starvation or were slaughtert by US troops like animals.
According to eyewithness: Pregnant women were generaly killed, children beaten to death, ill people stabbed with the bayonette...It was even forbidden to burry the death...
Of the 24 000 Creek about 10 000 were murdred on this death road by US troops. All together the number of murderd Indians on the "trail of tears" are over 20 000.
It was one of the biggest racist crimes in history.
The remaining Seminols staid and decided to fight rather than to be slaughterd like animals.
The fight for survival of the Semonols becomes the most costly Indian war for the USA in history.
In all Indian wars, the US Army lost around 2500 soldiers all together.
1500 US soldiers of this 2500 were killed only in the war against the Seminols. For this reason the US Army lost more soldiers against the Seminols as in all other Indian wars together. The USA even spent 30 $ in the war against the Seminols. But the Seminols never surenderd!
The Seminols are the only tribe which never signd a peace treaty with the USA. For this reason a good number of Seminol groups in Florida are still fighting for her federal recogniton as tribe.
Becaus the Seminols never signd a peace treaty with the USA, they were the first tribe which fougt the right to have casinos on their ground and with this action changed the economic base for some tribes.
The figurine is a great representation of this proud and undefeated tribe!
Best regards from Germany
Bruno
as I alreday post in another forum, your figurine are great!
Your work is an exasmple how to create athentic Indian figurines which represents the culture and herritage of this peole.
My highest compliments!!!
Let me add some information on the history of the Seminols of Florida.
The Seminols always shelterd runawy slaves. About 10% of the Seminol tribes were black people ore had black roots. The Seminols don't know racism and accepted the black people as full right members of the tribe.
It was Gen. Andrew Jackson who used the runawy slaves as a excuse to loot and burn Seminol villages.
When Jackson become President of the USA, the extermination of the Native Tribes started in a large scale form.
About 3000 Seminols were forced together with Cherokee, Chickasawa, Coctawa and Creek to leave her territory westwards. The Indians were herded like cattle, withaut foot ore blakets. Thousends died on the "Trail of Tears" on diseas and starvation or were slaughtert by US troops like animals.
According to eyewithness: Pregnant women were generaly killed, children beaten to death, ill people stabbed with the bayonette...It was even forbidden to burry the death...
Of the 24 000 Creek about 10 000 were murdred on this death road by US troops. All together the number of murderd Indians on the "trail of tears" are over 20 000.
It was one of the biggest racist crimes in history.
The remaining Seminols staid and decided to fight rather than to be slaughterd like animals.
The fight for survival of the Semonols becomes the most costly Indian war for the USA in history.
In all Indian wars, the US Army lost around 2500 soldiers all together.
1500 US soldiers of this 2500 were killed only in the war against the Seminols. For this reason the US Army lost more soldiers against the Seminols as in all other Indian wars together. The USA even spent 30 $ in the war against the Seminols. But the Seminols never surenderd!
The Seminols are the only tribe which never signd a peace treaty with the USA. For this reason a good number of Seminol groups in Florida are still fighting for her federal recogniton as tribe.
Becaus the Seminols never signd a peace treaty with the USA, they were the first tribe which fougt the right to have casinos on their ground and with this action changed the economic base for some tribes.
The figurine is a great representation of this proud and undefeated tribe!
Best regards from Germany
Bruno
michelange
Well-Known Member
Bravo Quang, encore une belle création. J'apprécie particulièrement les motifs sur la chemise et la sacoche qui collent vraiment au personnage; On sent comme d'habitude que tout cela est travaillé, rien n'est laissé au hasard. Félicitations.
bonehead
A Fixture
Hello Quang,
It looks like another winner from you!
I have to admit that I was a bit taken back by the "Tampa Red" name and the seemingly mixed ancestry of the face. It all makes sense to me now! Yeah, I am one of those freaks who actually know who Tampa Red was...........
Cheers!!
Mike
It looks like another winner from you!
I have to admit that I was a bit taken back by the "Tampa Red" name and the seemingly mixed ancestry of the face. It all makes sense to me now! Yeah, I am one of those freaks who actually know who Tampa Red was...........
Cheers!!
Mike
quang
A Fixture
Hello folks,
Sorry for being this late to chime in.(We took some days off in some place which happened to be HOTTER than where we live )
Adrian: The groundwork for this figure can be made quite elaborate and exciting. Now that the box art's done, I'm doing some experimenting drying and preserving moss and other natural plants to use on another take on this figure. Will look great over a swamp and a water snake. I hope to find enough time to carry it out.
Mike: The 'mixed blood' aspect was a real headache. It would not be much of a problem if it was, say, a Plains Indian. The issue was to figure out what an individual with mixed Indian/ European/ African ancestry would look like.
The McKenney and Hall portraits won't help because they're too 'stylised' and modern Florida Seminole would look different after decades of living in seclusion. The most convincing to me was the Richard Hook's illustrations. I based my figure on Hook's interpretation and also on the beautiful 1790 'live' sketches of Creek Indians by John Trumbull.
JP: I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing your painted version.
Bruno: Comme tu le sais, je n'ai jamais eu de patience pour la peinture. Je suis content de savoir que mes maigres efforts te plaisent.
Quang
Sorry for being this late to chime in.(We took some days off in some place which happened to be HOTTER than where we live
)Adrian: The groundwork for this figure can be made quite elaborate and exciting. Now that the box art's done, I'm doing some experimenting drying and preserving moss and other natural plants to use on another take on this figure. Will look great over a swamp and a water snake
. I hope to find enough time to carry it out.Mike: The 'mixed blood' aspect was a real headache. It would not be much of a problem if it was, say, a Plains Indian. The issue was to figure out what an individual with mixed Indian/ European/ African ancestry would look like.
The McKenney and Hall portraits won't help because they're too 'stylised' and modern Florida Seminole would look different after decades of living in seclusion. The most convincing to me was the Richard Hook's illustrations. I based my figure on Hook's interpretation and also on the beautiful 1790 'live' sketches of Creek Indians by John Trumbull.
JP: I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing your painted version.
Bruno: Comme tu le sais, je n'ai jamais eu de patience pour la peinture. Je suis content de savoir que mes maigres efforts te plaisent.
Quang
