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Poste-militaire Vs Pegaso! (old Vs New)
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Blue Thunder
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I will add only a small input that I don't like so much in the Pegaso range: It is the lack of a certain consistency in the size of their busts.
Let me put it this way: When placed all together, for me, the busts of a certain brand must have a certain degree of consistency inside the range. Namely the size, or the base and so on.
And this is what I think Pegaso could improve. For example their Gladiator and their Crusader busts, while they are both lovely miniatures, the face of the Gladiator is almost half the size of the Crusader's face. and when placed side by side the result for the viewer is a little annoying.
On the other hand, when I observe the range of busts from Poste Militaire, while they are all completely different, their apparent size remains from bust to bust.
My 2cents of positive criticism
As a matter of fact, I surely love the Pegaso Miniatures!
Let me put it this way: When placed all together, for me, the busts of a certain brand must have a certain degree of consistency inside the range. Namely the size, or the base and so on.
And this is what I think Pegaso could improve. For example their Gladiator and their Crusader busts, while they are both lovely miniatures, the face of the Gladiator is almost half the size of the Crusader's face. and when placed side by side the result for the viewer is a little annoying.
On the other hand, when I observe the range of busts from Poste Militaire, while they are all completely different, their apparent size remains from bust to bust.
My 2cents of positive criticism
As a matter of fact, I surely love the Pegaso Miniatures!
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Blue Thunder!......... By, 'Busts', I think you maybe refering to 'Bonapartes', own sculpters, and line. I am not aware that Poste-Militaire, did any 'Busts', I could be wrong. However! if by 'Busts', you are refering to the Heads!.... Now that's a different matter entirely. Ironically, I was just comparing the heads of 'Pegaso', and 'Poste-Militaire', (90mm)...., Now there is a difference.
Blue Thunder
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You see Tubby Nuts, I was really thinking about the absolutely astonishing Indian busts that amazed the crowd in the 90's. Namely the Pawnee, the Blood Warrior, the Mandan, Rainy Mountain Charlie and Wife. I've seen some of them again by the hands of Bonapartes and also they are regular on eBay.
By those days Pegaso bust range was just starting. One of the first was an American Football player. A great piece! If I may say so
My concern in the Pegaso range is the lack of consistency in the size of some of their current pieces. When placed together they look like different scales and upsets me a bit. But please, take this as positiv criticism!
I was really thinking about the absolutely astonishing Indian busts that amazed the crowd in the 90's. Namely the Pawnee, the Blood Warrior, the Mandan, Rainy Mountain Charlie and Wife. I've seen some of them again by the hands of Bonapartes and also they are regular on eBay.By those days Pegaso bust range was just starting. One of the first was an American Football player. A great piece! If I may say so
My concern in the Pegaso range is the lack of consistency in the size of some of their current pieces. When placed together they look like different scales and upsets me a bit. But please, take this as positiv criticism!
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I did not see any criticism, in your comment whatsover!.., ... I was truly unaware that Poste-Militaire, did any 'Busts', at all. Pegaso, Busts, yes! I am aware of those!.. But for the life of me, I can't find one P/Militaire bust!.. Anywhere. Could you give me a reference point.
, ... I was truly unaware that Poste-Militaire, did any 'Busts', at all. Pegaso, Busts, yes! I am aware of those!.. But for the life of me, I can't find one P/Militaire bust!.. Anywhere. Could you give me a reference point. 
Einion
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I agree completely, but they're not by any chance different scales (one 1/6 and the other 1/9)?
In the post above: a Pawnee, Rainy Mountain Charlie (old geezer smoking a pipe, wrapped in a trade blanket), Blood Warrior (this is the only one with a lot of native gear and it's a cracker), a Mandan in a Brit coat and top hat and the last one released I think was the mother and child duo titled Charlie's Woman.But for the life of me, I can't find one P/Militaire bust!.. Anywhere. Could you give me a reference point.
Einion
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The poste militaire native American busts are still among the best out there.
My avatar shows the back of the Pawnee bust.Have painted all of them.
I'm sure if you search on this site some more will come up.
Would post some pictures of mine but using the wife's IPad at the moment.
Martin
The poste militaire native American busts are still among the best out there.
My avatar shows the back of the Pawnee bust.Have painted all of them.
I'm sure if you search on this site some more will come up.
Would post some pictures of mine but using the wife's IPad at the moment.
Martin
kagemusha
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Do a google search for Poste Militaire busts mate, they all come up if you choose images.
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Ron
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Ron Tamburrini
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Regards this mighty rant one thing is clear and one I always try to adhere to.
Buy Early before the mould wears out,but don,t buy to early. Or put another way . Don't move till he moves but if he moves you move first
Buy Early before the mould wears out,but don,t buy to early. Or put another way . Don't move till he moves but if he moves you move first
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Oh!.....Of course. I recognise these!.. But I failed the realise that they where P/M, Busts. . What a 'Plonker'.
Regards this mighty rant one thing is clear and one I always try to adhere to.
Buy Early before the mould wears out,but don,t buy to early. Or put another way . Don't move till he moves but if he moves you move first
What if you both move at the same time Ron ? Inquiring minds need to know!
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Helm!...... I think 'Monsignor', or should that be, Generalissimo, 'Tamburrini, has managed to defy the Laws of 'Physics',... Being the only 'Scotsman; in the world! to arrive before he sets off!!
Illegitimis nil Carborundum!
Illegitimis nil Carborundum!
Blue Thunder
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You see, screens input a severe filter in the communication. In the end, it is exactly as you state. You buy Pegaso busts and when displayed you have characters in different scales. As a matter of fact, like the Crusader and the Gladiator in really different scales.
But ... and here comes the "but", the whole range is marketed as 200mm busts. Their references are "200-xxx": 200-001, 200-002 ... 200-042..." . For me, it would be nice that inside these "200mm" would be respected. At first glance, the Gladiator face is about the size of a Mike Good design for Kirin 1/12 bust and the massive Crusader is near the size PiliPili "Man'O'War" range. When placed together, for me, things could work much better.
For example, I really like Young line of resin busts. They are all highly consistent in size.
It's my personal preference: same brand, same line, same size.
Einion
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Again I completely agree. As Mike Good has actually pointed out a couple of times in previous discussions, sculptors are pretty notorious for working by eye and not keeping a careful check on size/scale, which leads to problems like 'scale creep'.It's my personal preference: same brand, same line, same size.
Since we're on the subject of Pegaso, their 54s are a good example of the kind of inconsistency this can lead to. Earlier ones are a little closer to 54mm in height but many later ones are in excess of 60mm, with the tallest being in the region of 65mm.
Ideally the sculptors should be working to a scale anyway and not to a nominal size like 54mm or 200mm, much easier to ensure the dimensions of any part of the model that way.
Einion
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Ok. So I can now accept that their are some 'disparencies', with! when, and for how long a mould should be used! ... and that the quality of a figure is subject to this use. I have also taken note, of elements, such as 'overheads', etc, and the costing/production. Maybe its even the original, 'Sculpture (s), before 'Cast'. It might also be that I have to accept that, the more expensive a individual figure is! does not necessarily set it above other cheaper options in the quality stakes. (As this can be an expensive hobby). .... Maybe! I should just, shut-up!......
Regards,
Mark.
lunctis viribus!
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Mark.
lunctis viribus!
gommolo
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I want to make a speech suggesting some points to ponder and which are often not taken into account.
Poste Militaire sold thousands and thousands (at least) pieces per code! All models produce 4-6 if only those, he sold about 20,000 figures a year. At that time, in addition Poste Militaire, there were only Le Cimier and Andrea Miniatures and those were the years in which the market of the soldier lived a golden age never seen again. Let's go to read the old numbers of Figurines where the pages of the news were 3 ..... and compare them to the current ones where the news is heading in the third of the magazine.
Poste Militaire used the CADMIUM in alloys. The CADMIUM guarantees the soundness of the alloy, precision and minimal shrinkage in volume. The Pegasus does not use it because it is TERRIBLY CARCINOGEN and for those who blend for those who manipulate it.Then, as regards the joints, we must consider that all models of PM were stiff and without movement while today Pegaso realizes them in motion and action, and this can create some minor problems with the joints. So you have to choose between a rigid piece or a moving maybe needs a bit of putty.In the '90s, the cost of a Poste Militaire was DOUBLE of any other figure on the market! A 75mm horse cost 50,000 lire or 50 euro but in the '90s, when my salary was 1,000,000 lire (or 500 Euros). And when a 75mm of any other company cost half.
Why PM, a company so successful and qualitative, closed? It could monopolize the market for a long time .... someone may explain to me?
Poste Militaire sold thousands and thousands (at least) pieces per code! All models produce 4-6 if only those, he sold about 20,000 figures a year. At that time, in addition Poste Militaire, there were only Le Cimier and Andrea Miniatures and those were the years in which the market of the soldier lived a golden age never seen again. Let's go to read the old numbers of Figurines where the pages of the news were 3 ..... and compare them to the current ones where the news is heading in the third of the magazine.
Poste Militaire used the CADMIUM in alloys. The CADMIUM guarantees the soundness of the alloy, precision and minimal shrinkage in volume. The Pegasus does not use it because it is TERRIBLY CARCINOGEN and for those who blend for those who manipulate it.Then, as regards the joints, we must consider that all models of PM were stiff and without movement while today Pegaso realizes them in motion and action, and this can create some minor problems with the joints. So you have to choose between a rigid piece or a moving maybe needs a bit of putty.In the '90s, the cost of a Poste Militaire was DOUBLE of any other figure on the market! A 75mm horse cost 50,000 lire or 50 euro but in the '90s, when my salary was 1,000,000 lire (or 500 Euros). And when a 75mm of any other company cost half.
Why PM, a company so successful and qualitative, closed? It could monopolize the market for a long time .... someone may explain to me?
Figurenfreund66
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So all the characters were stiff PM does not really, I am thinking only of the dragoons on horseback, the Guard lancers on horseback, the officer and trumpeter 18th Century, just to name a few.
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Hendryk
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