Q: Fallschirmjaeger Sniper?
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Andreas W.
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Hey,
As you say in the late part of the war...what about a para using a foreign sniper rifle?
and then his own gun carried on the back but I think that this is too much work...
I also think that there have been snipers in the Fallschirmjäger rows.A FG 42 with aimscope has been used like carls pic shows.
havent searched with the german word yet, fallschirmjäger scharfschütze. try this.
regards
Andreas
As you say in the late part of the war...what about a para using a foreign sniper rifle?
and then his own gun carried on the back but I think that this is too much work...
I also think that there have been snipers in the Fallschirmjäger rows.A FG 42 with aimscope has been used like carls pic shows.
havent searched with the german word yet, fallschirmjäger scharfschütze. try this.
regards
Andreas
dinovision79
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Hi Taesung,
this may help:
German WWII Fallschirmjager (1940-1945) Table of Organization & Equipment:
...A typical rifle company would consist of an HQ unit of 1 officer and 35 enlisted and 3 rifle platoons of 1 officer and 38 enlisted divided into 3 squads of 12-13 men (on paper of course)The Platoon ideally was a mix of about 16 rifles(by 44 a mixture of FG42s and MP44/MP43 with a number of Gewehr 33/40 for sniper work),9 MP-40s(officers and senior NCOs),and 6 machine guns (double the number in regular infantry squads)...
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=153123
this may help:
German WWII Fallschirmjager (1940-1945) Table of Organization & Equipment:
...A typical rifle company would consist of an HQ unit of 1 officer and 35 enlisted and 3 rifle platoons of 1 officer and 38 enlisted divided into 3 squads of 12-13 men (on paper of course)The Platoon ideally was a mix of about 16 rifles(by 44 a mixture of FG42s and MP44/MP43 with a number of Gewehr 33/40 for sniper work),9 MP-40s(officers and senior NCOs),and 6 machine guns (double the number in regular infantry squads)...
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=153123
I've just finished reading 'Heaven and Hell' by ex fallschirmjager Martin Poppel, a very good read and recommended.
Many late war fallschirmjager were pretty 'green', and were used as 'elite' infantry (rather than specialist troops) even though a lot of them were transferred in bulk from non flying units and flak troops. A good example would be FJR6 in Normandy, the officers were all veterans and survivors of the assaults in 1940, but the rank and file doing the fighting and taking the casualties were as wet as puddles!
As to whether the late war FJ had snipers, well I reckon almost certainly yes. It's very hard to find any photos of frontline post '44 FJ anyway, let along snipers operating ahead of the forward trenches.
Another book I've just finished is 'The Devil's Own Luck' by Dennis Edwards who was a para sniper who landed in one of the gliders at Pegasus bridge on D-Day, very good read for what a para sniper got up to!
Cheers,
Jon.
Many late war fallschirmjager were pretty 'green', and were used as 'elite' infantry (rather than specialist troops) even though a lot of them were transferred in bulk from non flying units and flak troops. A good example would be FJR6 in Normandy, the officers were all veterans and survivors of the assaults in 1940, but the rank and file doing the fighting and taking the casualties were as wet as puddles!
As to whether the late war FJ had snipers, well I reckon almost certainly yes. It's very hard to find any photos of frontline post '44 FJ anyway, let along snipers operating ahead of the forward trenches.
Another book I've just finished is 'The Devil's Own Luck' by Dennis Edwards who was a para sniper who landed in one of the gliders at Pegasus bridge on D-Day, very good read for what a para sniper got up to!
Cheers,
Jon.
captnenglish
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Thanks a lot for the info, guys!
I'm planning to give the figure a 98K with a larger scope...
This figure will be in an action pose, guys.
WHAT THE...?! :O
Yes, I said "action" pose... a finger pointing action, that is.
I think this is a great idea and subject for an Alpine figure, I would like to see the figure with a scoped FG42 though, just my two cents. Either way, since I have been collecting FSJ figures for some time (for a dio I hope time will allow me to build), I'll buy it as soon as it is released. Sorry I have no information on FSJ snipers though.
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tonydawe
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Hi Taesung,
Many people confuse snipers with marksmen, but there is an important distinction.
A marksman typically operates within a small infantry unit such as a platoon, and carries a standard issue rifle with a telescopic sight added for hitting medium to long distance targets up to 1,000 metres. A marksman was in all other respects just another infantryman, but with an above average ability to hit targets at long range.
Snipers on the other hand, tended to operate on their own or as part of a two man sniper team (sniper and spotter) and they are employed for "strategic" purposes, rather than tactical. The spotter's job was to calculate range distances, observe the target and provide protection to the sniper while he concentrated on taking his shot.
Allied and Axis snipers in WW2 were specifically trained and deployed to engage HVT's (High Value Targets) such as senior enemy officers, and also for inteligence gathering.
They were often forced to operate independently of other units and survive on their own. The ability of a sniper to operate from concealed positions and bring effective fire on enemy forces from ranges up to 1,500 metres, made them feared opponents and caused panic and terror among enemy troops.
Whereas a marksman was just another soldier, a sniper was a breed apart. They often had customised weapons and utilised sophisticated camoflague techniques, similar to ghillie suits, to remain concealed so they could observe targets over a period of several days.
As to your specific question, I don't know if Fallshirmjaeger units employed snipers, but I'd be curious to know if they did.
Paratroopers by their very nature are highly mobile and lightly armed to maximise their advantage of surprise and rapid movement. It's unlikely a sniper would use an FG42, or any other type of automatic weapon. They would much more likely use a single shot bolt action rifle like the KAR98 with a telescopic sight, for it's accuracy over distance and its high velocity round.
My research suggests that German snipers in WW2 tended to be drawn from Waffen SS and Wermacht units, not the Luftwaffe.
Good luck, I hope this helps.
Many people confuse snipers with marksmen, but there is an important distinction.
A marksman typically operates within a small infantry unit such as a platoon, and carries a standard issue rifle with a telescopic sight added for hitting medium to long distance targets up to 1,000 metres. A marksman was in all other respects just another infantryman, but with an above average ability to hit targets at long range.
Snipers on the other hand, tended to operate on their own or as part of a two man sniper team (sniper and spotter) and they are employed for "strategic" purposes, rather than tactical. The spotter's job was to calculate range distances, observe the target and provide protection to the sniper while he concentrated on taking his shot.
Allied and Axis snipers in WW2 were specifically trained and deployed to engage HVT's (High Value Targets) such as senior enemy officers, and also for inteligence gathering.
They were often forced to operate independently of other units and survive on their own. The ability of a sniper to operate from concealed positions and bring effective fire on enemy forces from ranges up to 1,500 metres, made them feared opponents and caused panic and terror among enemy troops.
Whereas a marksman was just another soldier, a sniper was a breed apart. They often had customised weapons and utilised sophisticated camoflague techniques, similar to ghillie suits, to remain concealed so they could observe targets over a period of several days.
As to your specific question, I don't know if Fallshirmjaeger units employed snipers, but I'd be curious to know if they did.
Paratroopers by their very nature are highly mobile and lightly armed to maximise their advantage of surprise and rapid movement. It's unlikely a sniper would use an FG42, or any other type of automatic weapon. They would much more likely use a single shot bolt action rifle like the KAR98 with a telescopic sight, for it's accuracy over distance and its high velocity round.
My research suggests that German snipers in WW2 tended to be drawn from Waffen SS and Wermacht units, not the Luftwaffe.
Good luck, I hope this helps.
T50
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Thanks, everyone!
Hmm...
I guess I should be careful what to call it.
Maybe "Fallschirmjäger w/ a custom shop deluxe 98K"???
or
"Fallschirmjäger Scharfschutze"???
or
"Fallschirmjäger Sniper" and get ready to catch flaks from experts?
Tony
Thanks for the interesting info!
Hmm...
I guess I should be careful what to call it.
Maybe "Fallschirmjäger w/ a custom shop deluxe 98K"???
or
"Fallschirmjäger Scharfschutze"???
or
"Fallschirmjäger Sniper" and get ready to catch flaks from experts?
Tony
Thanks for the interesting info!
Christosjager
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Because snipers are not fighting as a common infantrymen I thing that the pose of pointing is a bit wrong. These men fighting alone, hiding in every place you can't imagine so to whom this fallschirmjager points? I hope you understand what I mean. Regards Christos.
tiger111
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Taesung,
I really need a 1/16 fix..................................
bring on that Fallschrimjager
Brent
I really need a 1/16 fix..................................
bring on that Fallschrimjager
Brent
Andreas W.
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what about
"Fallschirmjäger mit Scharfschützengewehr" which means: paratrooper with sniper rifle
"fallschirmjäger scharfschütze" sounds a bit clumsy.If you want to say that it means:"Scharfschütze der Fallschirmjäger"
german is quite complicated
Andreas
"Fallschirmjäger mit Scharfschützengewehr" which means: paratrooper with sniper rifle
"fallschirmjäger scharfschütze" sounds a bit clumsy.If you want to say that it means:"Scharfschütze der Fallschirmjäger"
german is quite complicated
Andreas
Your telling me.what about
"Fallschirmjäger mit Scharfschützengewehr" which means: paratrooper with sniper rifle
"fallschirmjäger scharfschütze" sounds a bit clumsy.If you want to say that it means:"Scharfschütze der Fallschirmjäger"
german is quite complicated
Andreas
Danke,
Carl
T50
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Maybe I'm wrong here, but I like German language because it's very.... "honest".
Unlike some languages that you don't pronounce words the way you spell them.
To me, some languages are as if they have been secret-coded so foreigners would
have hard time learning
Unlike some languages that you don't pronounce words the way you spell them.
To me, some languages are as if they have been secret-coded so foreigners would
have hard time learning
Einion
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You wouldn't be referring to English would you?T50 said:To me, some languages are as if they have been secret-coded so foreigners would have hard time learning
Einion
T50
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You wouldn't be referring to English would you?
Einion
English was one of the two languages I was referring to...
