Scotland independence

[garyhiggins]

INTERMISSION
There was an Englishman an Irishman and a Welshman
It used to be a Scotsman but he wanted to go it alone.

In a bomb shelter in London during the war, there were two Welshmen, two Scots, and two Englishmen. After an hour, the Welshmen were singing sad songs, the Scots were sharing a wee dram, and the Englishmen were sitting bolt upright waiting to be introduced! Oh well!!!
How about some controversy? If we lose Scotland, cen we nick Brittany as a consolation prize???

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

England has always been trying to steel Brittany ,hence the name ; surprised the French haven't changed it to something else or have they !

 

[garyhiggins]

Two points Ron,
1 The French wouldn't dare, the Bretons wouldn't stand for it, and 2 I wouldn't know anyway as I can't speak French!
Best wishes, Gary.

 

[Helm]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26953860 Jings and Criminy

I have no idea why anybody thought this would be a great opening ceremony item, maybe our Glasgow correspondents can enlighten me ?
Steve

 

[Pilgrim_uk]

Sorry but folks in Glasgow are as much in the dark as the rest of the country . Its the fact that costs have soared by 50% for the games opening/ending celebration that just looks like somebody is lining their pockets. "Its about us not showing off to the world but for the people of glasgow" one spokesman said on the news. Well don't effin spend horrendous amounts of money when every council in Scotland has to make cuts across the board to make savings.

After the tram fiasco in Edinburgh I wouldn't let half these folk run doon the street never mind run the games.

If you worked beside councillors you wouldnt vote for half of them or their parties.

 

[DEL]

This is typical of the political makeup in Glasgow.......this is a city where the politicians thought it would be offensive to certain elements of the community to fly the Union Flag to welcome home servicemen and women. There was such a kick up on the day that the citizens were treated to the pathetic sight of officials rapidly raising the flag half way through the parade. A large number of these same city councillors have no problem with Eire's tricolour being flown above Celtic Park.
Anyway Red Road Flats were built with the best intentions to provide Glaswegian families with living spaces that provided the polar opposite from some of the slum conditions they were living in.
The original inhabitants and their children have very fond memories of the blocks, but as ever little consideration had been given to things like shops and play areas. There were also fundamental design problems like you couldn't fit a coffin horizontally into the lifts.
Gradually the flats developed a reputation for criminality and violence
As the children grew up they aspired to their own houses with a bit of garden a gradually the vacant flats were used to house more and more antisocial tenants.
The YMCA eventually ran one of the flats as a hostel type facility. The woman warden had the reception area tricked out as a homage to Brigadoon and had entered into an arrangement with Barlinnie Prison to provide halfway house accommodation for released prisoners.
One of my former staff was running literacy / numeracy classes in the block and swears that the classroom he was given was on the floor reserved for released murderers.
There is absolutely nothing that can be done with them, blow them up......but not as part of an opening ceremony.

 

[DEL]

If you worked beside councillors you wouldnt vote for half of them or their parties.

I did for 30 odd years............. half is way too high

 

[Helm]

Glad it's not just me who thinks it's a stupid idea then
Steve

 

[garyhiggins]

For those of you who obviously share my glowing respect for our glorious leaders, I wish to point out my post, The
Politicians Progress (further down on this forum).
Best wishes, Gary.

 

[Don]

Best quote ever from the floor of the house (Parliament) Dennis Skinner stood and asked Cameron " How do you solve a problem like Maria". He was refering of course to Maria Miller who has just resigned (like being sacked but you keep your pension). Seems I and everyone else was buying a "second house" for he parents. Started she owed £90,000 it came out that she owed £46,000 but Tory MPs got it down to £5,500. She agreed to pay that but her appology in the house didnt mention her vast theiving adventure.
And it seems Cameron does not understand why the people of the UK hate politicians!
If he is stuck I could tell him.

 

[Helm]

As an FYI it was an inter-party "committee" not the Torys that felt a measly 5K would be just fine it's only the colour of the ties that are different the whole place is a cesspit
Steve

 

[garyhiggins]

Does anyone else think we made a big mistake in getting rid of the divine right of kings???

 

[Don]

Sorry Steve, my mistake, I think there are at least 4 labour amongst the Committee. I sometimes get confused I am just getting used to blaming Camerons team for everything thats wrong in Parliament.
An easy mistake to make.

Don

 

[ghamilt1]

Seeing as I will always have a piece of my heart firmly planted in Scotland, I've been reading this thread for a while now.
I don't know if this story made much of an impact on your side of the Atlantic, but many of you might be aware, Canada has it's own struggles with dual identity (well, identity in general really) vis a vis Quebec. This past week the good people of Quebec (or les bonnes gens de Québec) had a provincial election which saw their nationalist party soundly defeated. I'm attaching a link to the CBC news political panel talking about what it all means. I wonder what the similarities might be, if any, with the whole referendum debate in Scotland? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebec-election-2014-is-sovereignty-dead-1.2601963

 

[garyhiggins]

I'm starting a new campaign, Independence for Hardingstone!!!!!

 

[Don]

I will join your campaign Gary, just love Independence campaigns. BTW just where is Hardingstone?

Don

Freedom for Hardingstone!

 

[garyhiggins]

Second star to te right and strait on 'till morning( just a bit to the south of Northampton).
Best wishes, Gary.

 

[Don]

Seeing as I will always have a piece of my heart firmly planted in Scotland, I've been reading this thread for a while now.
I don't know if this story made much of an impact on your side of the Atlantic, but many of you might be aware, Canada has it's own struggles with dual identity (well, identity in general really) vis a vis Quebec. This past week the good people of Quebec (or les bonnes gens de Québec) had a provincial election which saw their nationalist party soundly defeated. I'm attaching a link to the CBC news political panel talking about what it all means. I wonder what the similarities might be, if any, with the whole referendum debate in Scotland? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebec-election-2014-is-sovereignty-dead-1.2601963

Glen this was given a very small mention on TV news here but only with the result. I think it was used primarily to help defeat the Independence partys over here. Sort of show them where they are going wrong sort of thing. Dont think it will help as the Better Together campaign can only provide rants of doom and gloom but will say nothing about whats in it for Scotland to stay in the UK. They say they will make a statement "later" Tories say the same "later". A pox on their houses!!!!!!!!!!

Isnt it time you came back over, if only for a visit to Euro!

Don

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

This is typical of the political makeup in Glasgow.......this is a city where the politicians thought it would be offensive to certain elements of the community to fly the Union Flag to welcome home servicemen and women. There was such a kick up on the day that the citizens were treated to the pathetic sight of officials rapidly raising the flag half way through the parade. A large number of these same city councillors have no problem with Eire's tricolour being flown above Celtic Park.
Anyway Red Road Flats were built with the best intentions to provide Glaswegian families with living spaces that provided the polar opposite from some of the slum conditions they were living in.
The original inhabitants and their children have very fond memories of the blocks, but as ever little consideration had been given to things like shops and play areas. There were also fundamental design problems like you couldn't fit a coffin horizontally into the lifts.
Gradually the flats developed a reputation for criminality and violence
As the children grew up they aspired to their own houses with a bit of garden a gradually the vacant flats were used to house more and more antisocial tenants.
The YMCA eventually ran one of the flats as a hostel type facility. The woman warden had the reception area tricked out as a homage to Brigadoon and had entered into an arrangement with Barlinnie Prison to provide halfway house accommodation for released prisoners.
One of my former staff was running literacy / numeracy classes in the block and swears that the classroom he was given was on the floor reserved for released murderers.
There is absolutely nothing that can be done with them, blow them up......but not as part of an opening ceremony.

I could think off a couple of better places to blow up in Glasgow for the opening ceremony , maybe we could do both simultaneously then close with the rid road flats as they were known

 

[Paul Kernan]

Glen
Check my earlier posting. I talked about the PQ and the interesting thing being, Salmond was taking advice from representatives of the PQ on how to run an independence referendum. Hopefully, with the defeat of Marois recently, this is a good indication of what will happen this September.