Sketch dump

[pokrad]

Lotos symbol did found his visible place - simple bracelet:

 

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Small shoulder pin

 

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Try on necklace, do not like it, so this one is fail

 

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I like this one better - it has 600 parts - pain in the...

 

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Playing with different type of dress - and this one could be even more historically accurate - folds are currently terrible messed up as I am still looking for the right shape:

 

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Ended with this shape - more covered shoulder - looks more like authentic thing...

Now the worst part - make folds behave...
I should read something and finally learn sculpting folds as they are my nightmare

 

[Scotty]

There's a good book called dynamic folds and wrinkles (I think) have a look at that.

 

[Scotty]

Dynamic wrinkles and drapery, I was close! lol, all the best.

 

[pokrad]

Not there yet, but I think a bit better:

 

[JackG]

Nicely detailed, and she certainly still retains the glamorous look compared with this Egyptologist's computer study:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1095043/Sorry-Liz-THIS-real-face-Cleopatra.html

 

[pokrad]

Research might be good one, but that 3D presentation looks more like Disney character to me..
In other words - they should hire an artist to interpret the study data - this way I am not convinced
It is interesting that art and science do not work close together like in ancient times - from top of my head I could remember face reconstruction from skull where the artist is that one who gives the final look no matter how much data is behind.

 

[JackG]

Quite true, and that interpretation looks somewhat African - I think the basic consensus is she looked Greek more than anything else?

 

[pokrad]

From what I read about it, Yes, she was a Greek.
Here is one more interesting reffernce that I did not share before:

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/miscellanea/cleopatra/bust.html

And article is under "University of Chicago" domain, so It's certainly not bollocks


It is interesting thing about the nose - some historians say that on coins big nose was to show her "compatibility" with Cesar - not because she really had a big nose.
My thinking was: she has a big nose on coins - she was a Greek - so it is more certain that the nose was big than it was small
Not that I am saying that all Greeks have big noses - god forbid

Unfortunately the nose on Roman bust is broken so we can't see that

 

[pokrad]

A bit more cleanup on wrinkles, and this is what I got:

I still see some problematic points, but at the moment I hardly can do any better

 

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And here is how she looks in color

 

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A bit more cleanup on folds, and made a cut. I call it finished for now.

 

[pokrad]

No I did not pause
This time I have whole figure in mind, again based on the real life picture, but before that I was ready to "upgrade" my female body base mesh - sculpted long time ago in Sculptris - a whole bunch of things were wrong and off...
Two days of work - many reference images checked

 

[Dan Morton]

Great fun to watch you scuffle with the images!

All the best,
Dan

 

[pokrad]

Going with this one:

This as distant goal

 

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