To the Brits...
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Joe55
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You have a point there Larry. I used the Cliff Notes!
Try reading Chaucer's Canterbury Tales in old English
!Joe
Joe55
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mick3272
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A Scouser is a right herbert from Liverpool.
See under scallywag
Larry Esposito
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Now I feel like watching the Beverly Hillbillies!
Larry Esposito
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I got curious about the origin of Yankee. This is cool, since I'm from Connecticut.
1683, a name applied disparagingly by Dutch settlers in New Amsterdam (New York) to English colonists in neighboring Connecticut. It may be from Dutch Janke, literally "Little John," diminutive of common personal name Jan; or it may be from Jan Kes familiar form of "John Cornelius," or perhaps an alteration of Jan Kees, dialectal variant of Jan Kaas, literally "John Cheese," the generic nickname the Flemings used for Dutchmen.
Originally it seems to have been applied insultingly to the Dutch, especially freebooters, before they turned around and slapped it on the English. A less-likely theory (attested by 1832) is that it represents some southern New England Algonquian language mangling of English. In English a term of contempt (1750s) before its use as a general term for "native of New England" (1765); during the American Revolution it became a disparaging British word for all American natives or inhabitants. Contrasted with southerner by 1828. Shortened form Yank in reference to "an American" first recorded 1778. Latin-American form Yanqui attested in English by 1914 (in Mexican Spanish by 1835).
1683, a name applied disparagingly by Dutch settlers in New Amsterdam (New York) to English colonists in neighboring Connecticut. It may be from Dutch Janke, literally "Little John," diminutive of common personal name Jan; or it may be from Jan Kes familiar form of "John Cornelius," or perhaps an alteration of Jan Kees, dialectal variant of Jan Kaas, literally "John Cheese," the generic nickname the Flemings used for Dutchmen.
t is to be noted that it is common to name a droll fellow, regarded as typical of his country, after some favorite article of food, as E[nglish] Jack-pudding, G[erman] Hanswurst ("Jack Sausage"), F[rench] Jean Farine ("Jack Flour"). [Century Dictionary, 1902, entry for "macaroni"]
Originally it seems to have been applied insultingly to the Dutch, especially freebooters, before they turned around and slapped it on the English. A less-likely theory (attested by 1832) is that it represents some southern New England Algonquian language mangling of English. In English a term of contempt (1750s) before its use as a general term for "native of New England" (1765); during the American Revolution it became a disparaging British word for all American natives or inhabitants. Contrasted with southerner by 1828. Shortened form Yank in reference to "an American" first recorded 1778. Latin-American form Yanqui attested in English by 1914 (in Mexican Spanish by 1835).
The rule observed in this country is, that the man who receives that name [Yankee] must come from some part north of him who gives it. To compensate us for giving each other nicknames, John Bull "lumps us all together," and calls us all Yankees. ["Who is a Yankee?" Massachusetts Spy, June 6, 1827]
You have a point there Larry. I used the Cliff Notes!
Try reading Chaucer's Canterbury Tales in old English
Joe
And we also get Shakespeare stuffed down our throats but some great books too such as "Wind in the Willows" which led to a rather unfortunate rodent and amphibian fetish but that is another story...
So Joe and Larry what you've probably realised is that United Kingdom is a misnomer and each region, town, street has nothign good to say about the next one.
A little Welsh joke now: "This morning I was feeling dreadful and feeling as if I might vomit anyway when I was shaving I looked at the mirror and realised I'm not English and felt much better".
Another: "Q: What do you call 100 Englishmen at the bottom of the sea? A: A start"
And to balance things just a little "What do you call a sheep tied to a lampost in Wales? A: A leisure centre" (Note my colonial friends that centre is spelt properly in the UK).
Imagine if I wanted to be truly offensive...
Cheers
Huw who is going into hiding....
A little Welsh joke now: "This morning I was feeling dreadful and feeling as if I might vomit anyway when I was shaving I looked at the mirror and realised I'm not English and felt much better".
Another: "Q: What do you call 100 Englishmen at the bottom of the sea? A: A start"
And to balance things just a little "What do you call a sheep tied to a lampost in Wales? A: A leisure centre" (Note my colonial friends that centre is spelt properly in the UK).
Imagine if I wanted to be truly offensive...
Cheers
Huw who is going into hiding....
DEL
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Strikes me our cousins from the Province have come out of this relatively unscathed......so.......
Evolving from Piltdown we have Strabane Man ....... probably my favourite Irishman
Filled with passion........you just can't help liking him
Evolving from Piltdown we have Strabane Man ....... probably my favourite Irishman
Filled with passion........you just can't help liking him
Joe55
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What the..........???
Before I travel over there I will PM several of you all to see if someone there is free to be my guide and interpreter! If not, I'll strike out on my own with a map, compass, and sandwich!
Joe
Before I travel over there I will PM several of you all to see if someone there is free to be my guide and interpreter! If not, I'll strike out on my own with a map, compass, and sandwich!
Joe
peedee
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What the..........???
Hey Joe, you may as well begin here in Liverpool then.
currently there has been an enormous influx of tourism over the last ten years.
When the new cruise liner terminal opens next year it is gonna be great to see so many fine and graceful big ships back on the waterfront, we already get some but not 3 a week
The reason I tell you this, is that local folks are convinced the descendants of the 630,000 people that transited through Liverpool en-route to America 150 years ago, are now sneaking back in "1 boat at a time"
Paul
OldTaff
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No, don't hide, Huw, stand up and be counted! I'll stand with you
I've been the brunt of anti-Taffy 'humour' most of my life, but truth to tell, it's mostly been light-hearted.Alan
peedee
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No, don't hide, Huw, stand up and be counted! I'll stand with you
You are right Alan all meant in fun.
My favourite is :-
one Welshman...good conversation
two Welshmen....good company and great conversation.
three Welshmen..........a bloody choir!
Paul Bach
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Too right! I'd forgotten that one, thanks, Paul.I had an old uncle who's grasp of the finer points of syntax, in English, made for some odd quotes. Like, "Where were you going when I saw you coming home last night?" And a classic, on breaking wind very loudly, " O, Duw, **** myself have you ?"
Alan
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An Englishman, Welshman, an Irishman and a Scotsman, went into a pub. .......
They bought a drink and had a laugh.
Is this surprising?
Mark.
They bought a drink and had a laugh.
Is this surprising?
Mark.
billyturnip
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An Englishman, Welshman, an Irishman and a Scotsman, went into a pub. .......
They bought a drink and had a laugh.
Is this surprising?
Mark.
Who got the round in?
Tubby-Nuts2
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This is when they started fighting.... but had a laugh whilst doing so.
Its a start.
Mark.
Ron Tamburrini
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Being a generous Yorshireman I would buy you a pint anytime Ron.
I just new you would be watching Roger
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