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pokrad

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A few nice references:

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I can notice on old images, WAAF girls obey "no hair below the collar" really strict...

This time I used our belowed Margo Barbie as the refernce for the face
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You got her done really quickly, she looks great. Choosing a hairstyle will be interesting, you have done 3 loose cuts so perhaps a more structured "above the collar" 40s style. Both the girls in your lower picture have longer hair raised off the neck, plenty of clips and curlers used to get those styles.
 
When You have all day for Yourself, it goes quickly :) I spent 3 days on this head, and it's my personal record :)

Actually figuring out how they rolled that hair (second image, the one on the right). I do not see any hairclips ???

I think this is it, but how :) :) :)
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Anyhow, that is desired hairstyle...and it has a name apparently: "Victory rolls"

Which brings me to the cap - man that thing is ugly :)
So I am thinking about leaving the cap out and putting headphones around the neck for excuse :)
 
Yes that is the formal version of the style, probably salon rather than home. My mother-in-law was a teenager during the wartime years and worked as a civilian clerk in an army office. She said that they used to wet the hair each night, tight roll it around a finger (or baton), position and hold in place with lots hairpins (bobby pins not clips) then let the hair dry in style under a net.
Often it was a team effort with several girls helping each other.

On that girl in your last image you can see where the pins are located around the inside of the curl.

I think the headphones idea is great, much better to set the girl in a role than just be a pin up. Although I for one would love to see Pin Up busts :whistle:
 
My mother-in-law was a teenager during the wartime years and worked as a civilian clerk in an army office. She said that they used to wet the hair each night, tight roll it around a finger (or baton), position and hold in place with lots hairpins (bobby pins not clips) then let the hair dry in style under a net.
Often it was a team effort with several girls helping each other.

Being beautiful is a hard work :)

"Victory roll" first draft
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You can find all kinds videos of how victory rolls haristyles are done. Watching one might help understand the shapes and what is going on.

 
You can find all kinds videos of how victory rolls haristyles are done. Watching one might help understand the shapes and what is going on.



Yes, that's it. I am missing the strand that goes from the ears back and supports the back roll. That is why it looks like "face huger" from Alien :) I like the asymetrical roll, but will add the ears strands, it will improve the thing I think...
Thanks Jack
 
That looks very much like the references, nicely done. Where are you thinking of putting the headphones? That will change the lines of the hair quite noticeably as either the top of her head or the collar/neck line will have to reflect the weight and bulk of the equipment.

But before you do that, save that head design as with a 1930s style shoulderless dress and fur stole you have the basis of a lovely glamour model. As a forces girl she can only have minimal makeup and jewellery but in a Hollywood style you get the option for some bling and cosmetics.
 
The plan is to put the headphones around neck. The head strap in not too wide on them, it might just fit below hair...
We'll see :)


But before you do that, save that head design as with a 1930s style shoulderless dress and fur stole you have the basis of a lovely glamour model.

Nah, that would be cheating (Margo used as reference), for that it must be Rita - nobody else. Plenty of her pictures too ;)


Back to this bust: there are 3 patches on the shoulder:

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All printed and flat (ok, the middle one might be sewed but also flat)...
What would be better, make symbols 3D (so the eventual painting is easier) or leave just flat squares ?
 
I wonder if there is some kind of timeline concerning the materials patches were constructed from?

From a Canadian site it states 1943 is when Canadians were introduced to printed patches. British referred to these as canvas patches and were not that popular as they faded quickly and did not last as long.
https://www.canadiansoldiers.com/insignia/insignia.htm

That said I think even embroidered or sewn patches is pushing the limits of scale representation. Metal badges or bullion thread for insignia though is fine for 3D.
 
The early war patches were embroidered not printed, but still have very little raised texture.

Image 15 of the 18 from here (Imperial War Museum Collection) allows you to zoom in close enough on the sleeve to count the stitches.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30091567

This site has a good outline of which types of badge were used and when and where they were located.
http://www.wadhamsfamilyhistory.co.uk/FortiesWAAFuniform.htm
The printed badge was post Jan 1942 in RAF/WAAF

My preference as a painter would be for the patch outline and the badge to be slightly embossed, but I agree about the scale issue. It would have to be very minimally raised to avoid being much too thick. If it came to it just showing the patch and leaving the painter to add detail would be be better than something too bulky.
 
Guess it depends on the 3D printer quality and how acceptable the height of the embossing is. They can always sand it down flush with the badge surface.
 
They can always sand it down flush with the badge surface.

Yes that was my thought. Have it there and sand it off if you don't want to show it. Not all girls were the same rank or had the same specialisms so badges will vary, plus the 1942 regulations changed details about what was worn so some personalisation will be likely.
 
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