Mr Surfacer 1000 as primer

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Evan August

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Hi guys, I have heard of people using Gunze Sangyo MS as primer. However, they have used the finer 1200, and the hobby shop only had 1000. Has anyone tried this before, or does any one have useful tips? Don't want to screw up the figure I'm working on.
 
Hi Evan

I used MrSurfacer 1000. It works well on resin and plastic, but tear off white metal. On metal I use their MrMetalPrimer. Works well and is transparent.

Wojtek
 
Why not just paint on a lightly thinned humbrol 01? Or, spray on some model master RR primer. Both good THIN coverage.

I use the MR surfacer for minor defects. But, it dries so darn fast that I would be worried about clunking up the brush and figgie surface.

Just one man;s opinion... :)

Keith
 
Hi Evan, why not just use a basic spray primer from the hardware store, instead of an expensive imported modelling product?

I've use an automotive primer for most everything for years with superb results, and once I got into the habit of warming the can first I've never had the primer fill detail. I'm sure someone can recommend an equivalent for over there (Rustoleum?) Anything like this is going to work out waaay cheaper and they are really tough - for the record, far better than undercoating in Humbrol, which is pretty fragile.

Mr. Surfacer is intended to fill surface defects as you prime so it won't be ideal for a general-purpose primer (it will tend to fill fine detail) but if you want that feature you can buy sandable fillers from automotive stores too, again they'll be much cheaper than any hobby product if you can find the same there.

Einion
 
I am very sensitive to my primer. Simply because I need all the help I can get :lol:

Heck, if your primer is poor, nothing will save an other wise excellent paint work.

I have tried the generic auto primer and "rustoleum" and find that the paint grain size upon dry is still pretty bad. The best spray on is the MM Railroad figure primer closely followed by the Gamestop for me anyway...

I will say that I do use Enion's technique of placing the can of spray primer in warm water for ~ 10 mins before spraying on the figure. I have found this to make a noticeable difference smoothness and paint grain size.

Anyway... use what works for you ! :)

Good luck!

Keith
 
I've used Mr Surfacer well thinned for metal figures with a slight pitting or roughness.
However I experienced the same as Wojtek.
It easily scratches off exposed areas so its not a really hard sealer. Good for filling where putty would be overkill though.
So I use the Gunze transparent metal primer and/ or a coat of Humbrol.

I am still searching for a fine tough metal primer which I can put in my own airbrush (I distrust spray cans, certainly they are made in hell ;) ) and that doesn't poison every living creature in the whole village.
 
Hey Guys,

My best primer results are with Citadel primer. I have used automotive primer but they are to smooth. The paint get's off. So Gino Poppe advised me this one, and it works great.

marc.
 
Originally posted by KeithP@May 18 2005, 11:10 PM
I have tried the generic auto primer and "rustoleum" and find that the paint grain size upon dry is still pretty bad.
I think maybe you might be applying it a little too thickly? I've used the same brand of primer for all my work for over a decade and as I'm fond of saying, it won't clog detail on a Hornet figure :)

Einion
 
Originally posted by ManfredL+May 19 2005, 08:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ManfredL @ May 19 2005, 08:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I am still searching for a fine tough metal primer which I can put in my own airbrush (I distrust spray cans, certainly they are made in hell ;) )[/b]

LOL

You can decant spraycans into a jar if you want to airbrush something that's only available in a can - I did this for the chrome paint for the celeata on my Jeanne bust if you recall. It can be messy but if you spray down a drinking straw it's not too bad, but if you can find an equivalent of what I use it's really not worth the effort for primer.


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@May 19 2005, 09:35 AM
My best primer results are with Citadel primer. I have used automotive primer but they are to smooth. The paint get's off. [/quote]
I've experienced this problem too, but if you shoot light mist shots at about 30-40cm to build up the finish you can avoid the too-smooth effect.

Einion
 
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