oil over acrylics ?

[samson]

I won't be getting into anything for a bit . But have decided to go with oil for the flesh areas and acrylic for the rest. my question is say you paint a coat with acrylic can you then go into the shadows and highlights with oil ? Bought a book yesterday that explains acrylic techniques. Which is very helpful . Also I plan on using acylic by vallejo paints will I have trouble putting oils over this? Rob

 

[John Bowery]

You should not have any trouble painting the oil over the acrylic. The acrylic will also absorb some of the oil. Remember the oil will dry to a slight sheen. So if the oil is on clothing it will need a coat of Testors dullcote to take away the shine. Or some other clear flat coat.
Cheers
John

 

[JasonB]

Actually I believe its very common for us oil painters to undercoat first with acrylics. Gives the oils something to grip, and since most oils are less than opaque, allows better coverage. Use a mild thinner or spirit, though, some of the hotter stuff can cause acrylics to lift. I always use the odorless stuff, they seem to be the most mild.

 

[samson]

Great I have some odorless turponoid. Thanks for the help guys . Have been playing around with the few oil colors I have when I can and I think I will prefer that over acylic only .

 

[Ferris]

Very common to paint oils over acrylics.
Just remember that the acrylics require a base coat first, or they do not form a solid enough basis for the oils.

Adrian

 

[MCPWilk]

I always use oil over acrylics for flesh.

Good luck,

Mike

 

[Eludia]

I have been using oils over acrylics in the past but recently I've been using a very thin layer of oils (thinned with zest-it) instead of the acrylic undercoat. It dries just as matt as an acrylic layer when its thinned and, so far, has been successful. I still use an acrylic based primer coat and for my first flat figure I've used a standard acrylic paint as a primer coat (VMA Light Grey) instead of a dedicated primer (this may end in tears, only time will tell)

 

[swralph]

I find it best to have a matt finish with acrylic before you use oil,otherwise the oil tends to be pushed around instead of blended.
I use Vallejo undercoats with a touch of Tamiya matt medium.

 

[OldTaff]

Came across this tip from the renowned Max Longhurst........ try a little 'spike lavender oil' in your undiluted oil paint. The density of colour is retained, aids flow and drying time, and,in my experience from trying it, matts down the oils to a great degree. Spike lavender oil is sold in small dropper bottles for aromatherapy. It could also keep scorpions away

Alan

 

[billyturnip]

I used the oils over acrylic technique on my recently completed Seressaner flat.

 

[Kevindunne]

Yes you can...do it frequently...oils must be thinned though and glazed on. Mix a small amount of lighter fluid into the mineral spirits for a flat finish...use lighter fluid carefully and with good ventilation.

 

[Eludia]

It could also keep scorpions away

Alan

Cheers Alan, just what I need to solve the scorpion problem in my shed

 

[OldTaff]

WOT ? In high Norfolk?

 

[theBaron]

I use oils over acrylics, too, acrylic colors for flesh and oils for shading, no issues, they work very well together in this way.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Blind Pew]

Have a practice on some spare figure you've got lying about somewhere....... the learning will be worth it's weight in gold

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Came across this tip from the renowned Max Longhurst........ try a little 'spike lavender oil' in your undiluted oil paint. The density of colour is retained, aids flow and drying time, and,in my experience from trying it, matts down the oils to a great degree. Spike lavender oil is sold in small dropper bottles for aromatherapy. It could also keep scorpions away

Alan

Didn't know there were scorpions in Suffolk ,won't be going there

Never understand the desperation to dull oils to absolute matt with mediums , a sound base of matt paint will bring everything down to a gentle sheen along with time , in fact scale 75 paints will draw the oil out to matt , and just a little to matt for horses.

Biggest problem with beginning in oils is the application of too much paint and the habit of drawing all the oil out on a bit of card and causing the paint to drag which in turn makes one apply far more paint than needed.

Then off course you could do the latter and add a bit of white spirit to move the paint about .

 

[samson]

Thanks for the info

 

[Jimmy S]

Didn't know there were scorpions in Suffolk ,won't be going there


Biggest problem with beginning in oils is the application of too much paint and the habit of drawing all the oil out on a bit of card and causing the paint to drag which in turn makes one apply far more paint than needed.

Ron could you explain a bit more on this please?

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Ron could you explain a bit more on this please?

What would you like to know Jimmy S

 

[Jimmy S]

Ive always done the oils on card thing and am now thinking this is not a good idea. The oils were getting a bit too dry and not adhering to the undercoat properly. Any tips or guidance would be appreciated.