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Chris Oldfield said:
As the UK Government has today ordered all pubs, clubs & restaurants to close so as to reduce the spread of the virus, our local pub (which we use frequently for meals out etc) has appealed via social media to all its regulars for financial help, in the form of buying a bond or share in the business so that they can hopefully keep it solvent until they are allowed to reopen.

We’ve responded to the call by giving them a donation, & if all the regulars contribute they may ride out the pandemic. Many other small businesses may be in the same position, & being proactive like our local pub could be a useful tool for them.

Communities can always help each other in small ways. Just a thought.......
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Good on you Chris. It's a great idea particularly for more rural and small community pubs that even in 'normal' times work so hard to provide an essential social service to their communites.
Well done
Derek
 
On a slightly lighter note, on returning to the site homepage I noticed a large banner ad from a major online retailer offering condoms at discounted prices...…..
They never miss a trick - the analysts are fully aware that one of the major long-term effects of everyone being confined at home/self-isolating will be a massive spike in the birthrate!
 
Chris Oldfield said:
On a slightly lighter note, on returning to the site homepage I noticed a large banner ad from a major online retailer offering condoms at discounted prices...…..
They never miss a trick - the analysts are fully aware that one of the major long-term effects of everyone being confined at home/self-isolating will be a massive spike in the birthrate!
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Hi Chris, no...they are intended to pull over your HEAD to avoid infection.......
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Hi Guys

Here in Bampton , Devon , the business's are all supporting each and the village focussing on making sure all have access to things .....the community spirit is very strong here , flinging , Skyping each other to keep social , making sure all are involved

On the subject of condoms ....fear not no birth rate increase in this house ....lol

I have stocked up ........distilled water for my wet palette ....lol

Stay safe all

Nap
 
A local doctor here once told me that years ago he got an urgent call from a patient who was in a panic because his
little lad had just swallowed a condom. When the ambulance turned up, with its blue light blazing, the father opened
the door saying, "Panic over...everything's fine....My wife's just found another one ! "

Mike
 
HansDig said:
Hi Chris, no...they are intended to pull over your HEAD to avoid infection.......
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From a previous life, I can remember a guy whose favourite party trick was to pull one over his head to just under his nose, then inhale through his mouth & exhale through his nose to inflate it to a height of about 2 feet. Very impressive!

Just doing some modelling at the moment, & listening to an episode of Round The Horne on BBC Sounds. I can remember listening to this show on a Sunday afternoon when I was a nipper in the 1960s, completely ignorant of what all the double meanings in it were all about.......it’s even funnier now I do understand them all. Kenneth Williams was one of the funniest comedians who ever lived.
 
Ronaldo said:
Marc the media are in a feeding frenzy and loving every Minuit of it
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Ronaldo said:
Certainly not laughing it off , there may be more casualties when the food supply runs out and if it does we will see riots .
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Agree with that. We've already seen fights.

It's serious sure ... but the media are making it worse by catastrophising and sensationalising everything, there's no doubt in my mind about that. And that just feeds the whole spiral of panic-buying and general fear.

Also, given that hundreds of thousands die globally every year from flu anyway, is this now the "new normal"? I mean logically, if we're going to be put on indefinite lockdown for this, why not every year when the flu does the rounds and kills between 250,000 and 500,000 every year (according to WHO estimates, easily verifiable online) ... even with flu vaccines available? What's the difference? Exact same "vulnerable groups", and if you die of flu you're just as dead as you are if you've died of Covid.

There have been "new strain" pandemics before, most recently in 2009 (swine flu, estimated up to 500,000 dead globally but no-one really knows for sure the exact number), but the reaction has never been anything like this. It remains to be seen how this ends up in comparison, and of course we can't just pretend it's not happening, but worrying precedents are being set.

- Steve
 
IMHO this is not just a normal flu. Maybe we can learn something from the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
The most powerful weapon in this struggle is the use of common sense and we might get into trouble because many of us are already disarmed...

My benchtime is unfortunately currently limited due to special duties with the Police Force - I wish you all a great time at the bench and all the best for the next months ahead!
Stay calm and carry on.
Cheers, Martin
 
the difference with a normal influence is simple.
for a normal flu you do not need (not always) respirators and intensive care. For covid-19 yes, you need respirators and intensive care. If there are 10 infected, it is not a big problem for the health service if there are 1000 yes because it means that the beds for emergency therapy are busy and if you have, for example, a trivial domestic accident, you no longer find a place in the hospital, if you have an accident in a car can no longer find a place if you need dialysis, chemotherapy, etc. you can't find a place anymore. You don't have to look at the relative few cases, but you have to look at what these cases take away from other cases. Today a person from my country died ... yesterday exceeded the 600 deaths in Italy of this disease alone, to which are added the hundreds of people who die on average every day from other diseases or accidents .... 40 health workers have already died and the health workers are not easily replaced.
 
This is not like the flu. I thought so at first but reading more about the disease gave me quite a shock. It’s not only the higher lethality, even if you live the disease in 20% of cases is a rather evil one, potentially putting you 2 weeks in IC, hooked up to respirators and unconcious, needing months to fully recover. Half the people ending up in IC are under 50, some without underlying health issues. Not something I’d like to catch.

And what’s becoming more evident every day, our hospitals are becoming Corona clinics, with minimal capacity for anything else. This is extreme and unprecented since world war 2 and certainly nothing like seasonal flu.

Then this is a rather new virus, ‘smarter’ than the related SARS one. Less lethal, but more contagious and suspected to be contagious before symptons, which enables it to spread so widely. We also simply do not know yet if we even become immune. There are viruses that, once you catch them, occasionally keep making you ill (such as the herpes one plagueing your lips).
With so much about this virus yet to learn, I think we should be more humble towards nature and the situation.

This is not a media hype. Headlines don’t make hospitals swamp. We should take it seriously.

Stay healthy eveyone!

Adrian
 
I truly believe there is noone here on PF that does not take this serious but there are teo ways to handle situations like this. One is to keep trying to convince everybody "the end is near", the other one is to try to see thing im perspective while adding a bit of humor.
I believe the second option will help us to endure this. Believe me, all the media, social or not, are doing their best they can with the first option making the "off" button on my TV the best invention since sliced bread.
So..please post your jokes and memes and let the media spread their "doom of death".
Believe me, 99,9% of the worlds population will survive this and I'll even settle for 99,5% amd might it be me in the 0,5% I'd rather go with a smile on my face.
Regards
Hans
 
Well done fellas for completely missing the point I was trying to make :rolleyes:.

Best wishes to all though regardless.

- Steve
 
Guys, the end is not near and that wasn’t my point.
I got triggered to post because of the ‘it’s just like the flu’ statements in this thread.
Keeping things in perspective is good, but that is too much of it.
Hospitals are being swamped, and that’s nothing like with the flu.

Anyway, don’t get me wrong, I’m all for trying to keep spirits up through humour.
So here’s my contribution to getting away from seriousness.

(Crap, the movie I wanted to post is technically not allowed)
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So Ferris and Martin, good to know you both stick to some humor and leave facts and warnings to those who are truly competent to do so with which I mean the DO have a degree in this field off knownledge.
Happy "keeping-things-in-perspective" day and remember..



Ps, I go to the gym 3-4 times a week for some heavy lifting......yesterday I slided a chair and "snap"....there goes my back. There's danger lurking in every corner.....

And remember ...

 
Ferris said:
Hospitals are being swamped, and that’s nothing like with the flu.
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Have to disagree there Adrian. This is just one example from 2018, but a quick Google throws up many others ...

https://apnews.com/53aca56522954252...amped-with-flu-patients,-turn-away-ambulances

I did say that the flu kills way more every year than Covid has (so far anyway). But the point I was trying to make was not whether or not this is "like the flu" or "worse than the flu or "not as bad as the flu" or whatever.

I was speculating on whether lockdowns (and all the economic, social and civil liberties implications that come with them) are going to be the new normal now, every time some killer bug does the rounds ... whether it's flu, Covid or anything else.

Best wishes to you & yours. (y)

- Steve
 

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