Poste Militaire Conversion

[Dani A.]

Johan,

Indeed, I will replace weapons and equipment. Carbine will go, with his crossbelt and related complements; a sabre and an Officer's crosbelt with its apropriate pouch will susbtitute that. I had actually begun the waistbelt changes, by removing the undesired detail (this is visible in the photo); now I have to add the new details there.
I have not completely settled on what the arms's pose will be; the right arm at least will be in a different pose to the one supplied, its hand will hold the sabre, or maybe a telescope or a map, or... I will remove the gauntlets and remodel the lower sleeves, too. Gauntlets are not usual for these troops, although neither are they impossible for an officer.
Thanks for the tip on the pigtail! I had not considered that point.

Dani

 

[Dani A.]

Johan,

Indeed, I will replace weapons and equipment. Carbine will go, with his crossbelt and related complements; a sabre and an Officer's crosbelt with its apropriate pouch will susbtitute that. I had actually begun the waistbelt changes, by removing the undesired detail (this is visible in the photo); now I have to add the new details there.
I have not completely settled on what the arms's pose will be; the right arm at least will be in a different pose to the one supplied, its hand will hold the sabre, or maybe a telescope or a map, or... I will remove the gauntlets and remodel the lower sleeves, too. Gauntlets are not usual for these troops, although neither are they impossible for an officer.
Thanks for the tip on the pigtail! I had not considered that point.

Dani

 

[gordy]

Dani,
Welcome aboard

The work on the "siège de panthère" is gorgeous, i like the texture very much

The chevrons look excellent!
Do you use much "add/subtraction" method? (adding some putty, then working it to a near finish shape, then finish/fine tune it when set)

 

[gordy]

Dani,
Welcome aboard

The work on the "siège de panthère" is gorgeous, i like the texture very much

The chevrons look excellent!
Do you use much "add/subtraction" method? (adding some putty, then working it to a near finish shape, then finish/fine tune it when set)

 

[frank h]

Hi Dani
Terrific work, great in depth commentary.
I look forward to seeing and reading more.

Frank

 

[frank h]

Hi Dani
Terrific work, great in depth commentary.
I look forward to seeing and reading more.

Frank

 

[Dani A.]

Hello Gordy,

Yes, I am comfortable enough with putty (BTW, I did not mention I use Milliput Superfine), and I do most of the work with it, even things that are frequently done with other materials (lead or plastic sheet, wire, etc). I prefer to model this way and later, fine-tune it with files, cutter blades, whatever fits the job. Just as you mention!

Although this is off the current topic, I will put here a photo of a unpainted 100% original figure I modelled, a US-Mexican War Dragoon, in 120 mm (my second original). Almost EVERY feature of this figure is made with Milliput Superfine or Milliput Superfine mixed with Duro (for the hair and moustache). It was much a challenge. For instance, the carbine hook assembly is Milliput, and every component is moveable except the spring, bien entendu - which was not really necessary, but did not take any extra work either. The only parts made with another materials are the carbine barrel -plastic rod- and the spur rods -plastic- and "stars" -plastic sheet- (not visible in the photo), which can not be sculpted with putty. The groundwork is not Milliput, it is a clay-like modelling paste).

(Note - the figure is blue-tacked in position, and it looks a little stiff and odd in its provisional pose)

There are more photos, and a full article, in English, here:

http://www.losomatent.org/home.html (go to articles and then to "Enter the Dragoon". And take a look at the rest of the site... there are some more English contents).

Dani

 

[Dani A.]

Hello Gordy,

Yes, I am comfortable enough with putty (BTW, I did not mention I use Milliput Superfine), and I do most of the work with it, even things that are frequently done with other materials (lead or plastic sheet, wire, etc). I prefer to model this way and later, fine-tune it with files, cutter blades, whatever fits the job. Just as you mention!

Although this is off the current topic, I will put here a photo of a unpainted 100% original figure I modelled, a US-Mexican War Dragoon, in 120 mm (my second original). Almost EVERY feature of this figure is made with Milliput Superfine or Milliput Superfine mixed with Duro (for the hair and moustache). It was much a challenge. For instance, the carbine hook assembly is Milliput, and every component is moveable except the spring, bien entendu - which was not really necessary, but did not take any extra work either. The only parts made with another materials are the carbine barrel -plastic rod- and the spur rods -plastic- and "stars" -plastic sheet- (not visible in the photo), which can not be sculpted with putty. The groundwork is not Milliput, it is a clay-like modelling paste).

(Note - the figure is blue-tacked in position, and it looks a little stiff and odd in its provisional pose)

There are more photos, and a full article, in English, here:

http://www.losomatent.org/home.html (go to articles and then to "Enter the Dragoon". And take a look at the rest of the site... there are some more English contents).

Dani

 

[Johan]

Dani,

I have done a little more research on the Imp Guard Horse artillery - well I should rather continue on my dragoon figure that I have to finish, but this forum and TnT are becoming an addiction :lol: - and have found a few more facts that might interest you.

First, it seems that the imperial eagle design on the cartridge pouch and sabretache etc. is positioned over two crossed cannonbarrels, but you probably knew this already :lol: .

Second, the dress in which the figure is depicted (habit instead of hussar-style dolman) is 100% accurate especially for the 100-days campaign and Waterloo in 1815! The horse gunners would have, probably, preferred to wear their hussar uniform, but ... all evidence (existing documents in archives conc. the actual purchases of uniforms and equipment for the imp. guard) suggests that such hussar uniforms were NOT made for the horse art. of the guard during 1815, instead they DID all receive a new uniform in the habit style (= like the poste mil figure that you are converting now). So your figure will be a very accurate portrait of an Imperial Guard horse artillery captain at the battle of Waterloo ! :lol:

All the above information is from H. Lachouque's "La Garde Imperiale".

I hope this helps,


Johan

 

[Johan]

Dani,

I have done a little more research on the Imp Guard Horse artillery - well I should rather continue on my dragoon figure that I have to finish, but this forum and TnT are becoming an addiction :lol: - and have found a few more facts that might interest you.

First, it seems that the imperial eagle design on the cartridge pouch and sabretache etc. is positioned over two crossed cannonbarrels, but you probably knew this already :lol: .

Second, the dress in which the figure is depicted (habit instead of hussar-style dolman) is 100% accurate especially for the 100-days campaign and Waterloo in 1815! The horse gunners would have, probably, preferred to wear their hussar uniform, but ... all evidence (existing documents in archives conc. the actual purchases of uniforms and equipment for the imp. guard) suggests that such hussar uniforms were NOT made for the horse art. of the guard during 1815, instead they DID all receive a new uniform in the habit style (= like the poste mil figure that you are converting now). So your figure will be a very accurate portrait of an Imperial Guard horse artillery captain at the battle of Waterloo ! :lol:

All the above information is from H. Lachouque's "La Garde Imperiale".

I hope this helps,


Johan

 

[Dani A.]

Hello again, Johan,

Some words on the figure's uniform could be useful for readers not familiarised with the subject.

The original figure wears the "à la chasseur" unifform, which is less well known that the alternative "à la hussarde" uniform Chasseurs à Cheval de la Garde used. This chasseur style uniform was characterized by the "habit long", which was used as "petite tenue" or service uniform, in route, or for campaign if so ordered... Of course, the supply situation also dictated its own norms, as Johan has aptly described for the Waterloo campaign. The Artillerie à Cheval used the same variants of uniforms, but in blue with red facings instead of the chasseurs's green with aurore, and with different badges, so it was a good selection for the conversion and would look different enough.

I am using as my main source the Rousselot plates dealing with the “Artillerie à Cheval de la Gardeâ€, nums. 60 (enlisted men) and 74 (officers and trumpeters), and 94 ( “Chasseurs à Cheval de la Gardeâ€, officers) and 52 (“Artillerie à Cheval de la Ligne officers and trumpeters), as a complement for certain details.

You are perfectly right as regards the pouch and sabretache badge; instead, at the shabracque corners the common Guard pattern eagle was used, although as an alternative a grenade was seen, too.

Could you let me know more about your dragoon? Have you presented it here too?

Regards,

Dani

 

[Dani A.]

Hello again, Johan,

Some words on the figure's uniform could be useful for readers not familiarised with the subject.

The original figure wears the "à la chasseur" unifform, which is less well known that the alternative "à la hussarde" uniform Chasseurs à Cheval de la Garde used. This chasseur style uniform was characterized by the "habit long", which was used as "petite tenue" or service uniform, in route, or for campaign if so ordered... Of course, the supply situation also dictated its own norms, as Johan has aptly described for the Waterloo campaign. The Artillerie à Cheval used the same variants of uniforms, but in blue with red facings instead of the chasseurs's green with aurore, and with different badges, so it was a good selection for the conversion and would look different enough.

I am using as my main source the Rousselot plates dealing with the “Artillerie à Cheval de la Gardeâ€, nums. 60 (enlisted men) and 74 (officers and trumpeters), and 94 ( “Chasseurs à Cheval de la Gardeâ€, officers) and 52 (“Artillerie à Cheval de la Ligne officers and trumpeters), as a complement for certain details.

You are perfectly right as regards the pouch and sabretache badge; instead, at the shabracque corners the common Guard pattern eagle was used, although as an alternative a grenade was seen, too.

Could you let me know more about your dragoon? Have you presented it here too?

Regards,

Dani

 

[Johan]

Dani,

The dragoon is a conversion of poste militaire's 70mm Trumpeter of the franco prussian war - which I'm converting into a trooper because I'd just like to see the RED cavalry trousers, not the green ones as in this figure :lol: . I have the intention to post pics when he's finished. Should be a "fresh" approach to the old Derek Hansen figure - red trousers instead of green, green tunic instead of red... :lol:


You use the Rousselot plates - well you can't go wrong there can you! They're great!

Johan

 

[Johan]

Dani,

The dragoon is a conversion of poste militaire's 70mm Trumpeter of the franco prussian war - which I'm converting into a trooper because I'd just like to see the RED cavalry trousers, not the green ones as in this figure :lol: . I have the intention to post pics when he's finished. Should be a "fresh" approach to the old Derek Hansen figure - red trousers instead of green, green tunic instead of red... :lol:


You use the Rousselot plates - well you can't go wrong there can you! They're great!

Johan

 

[Edson]

Great work Dani, is good to see all the detailed work in a proyect like these one,

Keep the good work
Cheers
Ed

 

[Edson]

Great work Dani, is good to see all the detailed work in a proyect like these one,

Keep the good work
Cheers
Ed

 

[Johan]

Dani, do you have the illustration (presumably done after life) by the Otto manuscript illustrator - this shows just such a captain of Imp Guard horse art. in 1807. I can send that or else I could send it to the admin to post it here. Just let me know.

(It was apparently especially in the 1812 -1814 period that the hussar uniform was worn)

 

[Johan]

Dani, do you have the illustration (presumably done after life) by the Otto manuscript illustrator - this shows just such a captain of Imp Guard horse art. in 1807. I can send that or else I could send it to the admin to post it here. Just let me know.

(It was apparently especially in the 1812 -1814 period that the hussar uniform was worn)

 

[Dani A.]

Johan,

It would be interesting if you manage for the photo to get posted here, so readers (and me) can benefit from it!

Dani

 

[Dani A.]

Johan,

It would be interesting if you manage for the photo to get posted here, so readers (and me) can benefit from it!

Dani