Martin Antonenko
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60. Day, January 29, 2016
Now we come to the badge on the shoulder pieces:
There were two common methods to bring the regimental numbers on the shoulder pieces of the Russian soldiers ...:
On the one printed on it (or painted it from lack of material with ink pen by hand) or you used small prefabricated numbers and letters made of tinplate for.Here both methods in the picture ...:
And here again the back of such tinplate letters ...
... and mounted on a shoulder strap...:
Here more of tinplate letters ...:
The 11th East Siberian Rifle Regiment wore the epaulets, the term "11. BC" what the Cyrillic abbreviations for. "11. Восточная Сибирь стрелковый полк "(pronounced " 11. Wostochnaya Sibir 'strelkovij polk "was being" Polk "means " Regiment " and" strelkowij "from the word" Strelzij "(=" Strelez "=" derives "Shooter").
The difference between "normal" infantry regiments and Protect regiments was, incidentally, that was in the former during training focusing more on volleys and bayonet charge, and dominated the latter more rifle training with careful locations.
The badges were, as we have already seen, yellow ...
... And so I have also painted ...:
And now a bit regimental history from the time at issue here, namely the Russo-Japanese War from February 1904 to the autumn of 1905:
The 11th East Siberian Rifle Regiment was at the beginning of the war on the 3rd Siberian Armeekops.
The soldiers had the misfortune to be commanded by one of the most incompetent commander of the entire Russian army, namely by Lieutenant General Anatoly Mikhailovich Stessel ...
... of not his skill, but his good relations owed his position to the Tsar.
Already during the first major battle of the war at the Yalu (the border river between the Russian-occupied Manchuria and claimed by both belligerents Korea) on 30 April to 1 May 1904 (after our era), General Stessels Corps had difficult beaten by the Japanese to retreat hastily.
The Russian army to the Stessels belonged Corps, had been commissioned any Japanese attempts to cross the Yalu ward.
The Russians did not use their time to dig sufficient positions or to explore the other side of the Yalu. So they were surprised by the strength of the Japanese troops on April 30, as this could almost unhindered cross the river. On May 1 attacked three Japanese divisions, supported by more than 100 guns, the Russian positions.
Although the frontal invading Japanese suffered considerable losses, but the Russians were able to throw from their positions. The subsequent Japanese artillery fire and the threat of encirclement could fall into a panicked retreat the Russians.
The Japanese had thus won the first major land battle of the war and thus nullified Russia hopes for an easy victory.
The 11th East Siberian Rifle Regiment covered the retreat of the defeated 3rd Corps and suffered heavy losses here!
How high the losses of the unit overall, can no longer be quantified precisely - but the regiment was not replenished but from a part of the survivors - along with survivors of other units -. Formed the Provisional Regiment 585 of the first Manchurian Army, which speaks for losses between 50 percent and two-thirds of the original stock.
Another part of the survivors was assigned to the 32nd Provisional Regiment of the 1st Manchurian army.
General Stessel was replaced after the battle and replaced by General Lieutenant General Fyodor Keller ...:
Stessel was added on to the fortress of Port Athur, "initiated" as of August 1, 1904 the defense against the Japanese siege (the real line had the generals Konstantin Nikolaevich Smirnov ...
...and Roman Isidorowitswch Kondratenko) ...
... and surrendered on January 2, 1905 (each of our era!) after Kondratenkos death at the front the fortress with 32,000 combat-capable soldiers to the Japanese.
He even found time to seek, take pictures with the Japanese champion, General Nogi, while his soldiers went into captivity ...:
As Stessel after the war arrived in St. Petersburg, he was brought before a court martial and sentenced on 7 February 1908. death. Later the sentence in 10 years' imprisonment was converted. was on May 6, 1909 - believe it or not! pardoned Stesse of Tsar Nicholas II and taken back to the military service -..
Only in November 1905 - after the war - the 11th East Siberian Rifle Regiment was re-racked.
1918 resolved the Bolsheviks on the unit.
Now we come to the badge on the shoulder pieces:
There were two common methods to bring the regimental numbers on the shoulder pieces of the Russian soldiers ...:
On the one printed on it (or painted it from lack of material with ink pen by hand) or you used small prefabricated numbers and letters made of tinplate for.Here both methods in the picture ...:
And here again the back of such tinplate letters ...
... and mounted on a shoulder strap...:
Here more of tinplate letters ...:
The 11th East Siberian Rifle Regiment wore the epaulets, the term "11. BC" what the Cyrillic abbreviations for. "11. Восточная Сибирь стрелковый полк "(pronounced " 11. Wostochnaya Sibir 'strelkovij polk "was being" Polk "means " Regiment " and" strelkowij "from the word" Strelzij "(=" Strelez "=" derives "Shooter").
The difference between "normal" infantry regiments and Protect regiments was, incidentally, that was in the former during training focusing more on volleys and bayonet charge, and dominated the latter more rifle training with careful locations.
The badges were, as we have already seen, yellow ...
... And so I have also painted ...:
And now a bit regimental history from the time at issue here, namely the Russo-Japanese War from February 1904 to the autumn of 1905:
The 11th East Siberian Rifle Regiment was at the beginning of the war on the 3rd Siberian Armeekops.
The soldiers had the misfortune to be commanded by one of the most incompetent commander of the entire Russian army, namely by Lieutenant General Anatoly Mikhailovich Stessel ...
... of not his skill, but his good relations owed his position to the Tsar.Already during the first major battle of the war at the Yalu (the border river between the Russian-occupied Manchuria and claimed by both belligerents Korea) on 30 April to 1 May 1904 (after our era), General Stessels Corps had difficult beaten by the Japanese to retreat hastily.
The Russian army to the Stessels belonged Corps, had been commissioned any Japanese attempts to cross the Yalu ward.
The Russians did not use their time to dig sufficient positions or to explore the other side of the Yalu. So they were surprised by the strength of the Japanese troops on April 30, as this could almost unhindered cross the river. On May 1 attacked three Japanese divisions, supported by more than 100 guns, the Russian positions.
Although the frontal invading Japanese suffered considerable losses, but the Russians were able to throw from their positions. The subsequent Japanese artillery fire and the threat of encirclement could fall into a panicked retreat the Russians.The Japanese had thus won the first major land battle of the war and thus nullified Russia hopes for an easy victory.
The 11th East Siberian Rifle Regiment covered the retreat of the defeated 3rd Corps and suffered heavy losses here!
How high the losses of the unit overall, can no longer be quantified precisely - but the regiment was not replenished but from a part of the survivors - along with survivors of other units -. Formed the Provisional Regiment 585 of the first Manchurian Army, which speaks for losses between 50 percent and two-thirds of the original stock.
Another part of the survivors was assigned to the 32nd Provisional Regiment of the 1st Manchurian army.
General Stessel was replaced after the battle and replaced by General Lieutenant General Fyodor Keller ...:
Stessel was added on to the fortress of Port Athur, "initiated" as of August 1, 1904 the defense against the Japanese siege (the real line had the generals Konstantin Nikolaevich Smirnov ...
...and Roman Isidorowitswch Kondratenko) ...
... and surrendered on January 2, 1905 (each of our era!) after Kondratenkos death at the front the fortress with 32,000 combat-capable soldiers to the Japanese.
He even found time to seek, take pictures with the Japanese champion, General Nogi, while his soldiers went into captivity ...:
As Stessel after the war arrived in St. Petersburg, he was brought before a court martial and sentenced on 7 February 1908. death. Later the sentence in 10 years' imprisonment was converted. was on May 6, 1909 - believe it or not! pardoned Stesse of Tsar Nicholas II and taken back to the military service -..
Only in November 1905 - after the war - the 11th East Siberian Rifle Regiment was re-racked.
1918 resolved the Bolsheviks on the unit.
