Sas Sgt Jailed

[colonnello kurz]

Very intresting,every country have is own "style" , i am from Switzerland and here with "Militia Army" every citizen is a soldier and for this every man (between 18-35 years) have is own army gun at home,is very easy to see a young soldier on the train with is gun going to serve the country for is 3 week every year,and until 2 years a go we have also a can (redbull size) of ammo to open in case of war ,but we dont see this gun like something for private defense,wen you finish the army you can also ask to keep the gun to use in the shooting range,here sport shooting is very popular like also hunting and is part of a long tradition,the sport shooting lobby is very powerfull,i shoot the first time 7 years old becose my granpa was a hunter,the big difference between USA and us is only a realy small ammount of the population have a gun for self defense,for this we have police and Army,here like GB is really rare gun crime the only problem with the army gun is lots of people use for suicide but this is a problem of stress not of guns.

I like guns but i am against the private defense ,this job have to be done just by the pro.

Sorry for my very bad english!!....

 

[Jimmy S]

The latest :

38 Degrees is forwarding this e-mail on from Sally Nightingale, the wife of Sergeant Danny Nightingale. So far, more than 70,000 38 Degrees members have signed the petition calling for Danny to be released (http://you.38degrees.org.uk/p/danny-nightingale). Read her message below:


Dear All,

I can't thank you enough for the support you’ve shown my husband, Sergeant Danny Nightingale. It means more than I can tell you that tens of thousands of people are standing with us to fight for his freedom. From the bottom of my heart - thank you.

On Thursday, I’ll be taking the petition we’ve all signed into court for Danny’s appeal. A crucial issue will be whether keeping Danny in jail is in the public interest - so our petition calling for his freedom, signed by so many thousands of people, will be vital for Danny’s case.

If we’re going to show the court that the public don’t want Danny in jail, we need as many signatures as possible on that petition by Thursday. It really could be what decides whether or not Danny comes home with me and our children in just two days' time. Every single signature counts.

Can you forward this e-mail to your friends and family now and help the petition grow ? You can also share this link on Facebook or Twitter (where we know lots of people are seeing it):
http://you.38degrees.org.uk/p/danny-nightingale

This could be our last chance to help Danny - even if you’ve already shared the petition with your friends and family, casting the net a little wider now could make all the difference. Right now, more than 70,000 of us have signed the petition - but Danny’s lawyers have said they think it will be a huge boost to his case if we can get it up to 100,000 signatures by the time they take it into court.

Please forward this e-mail now - and here’s the link to share on Facebook or Twitter:
http://you.38degrees.org.uk/p/danny-nightingale


Thank you so much for everything you’re doing to help Danny.

Sally Nightingale, Sergeant Danny Nightingale’s wife


P.S. If you’re in London and can make it along to show your support for Danny on Thursday that would be fantastic - 38 Degrees members will be handing me the petition to take into court outside the main entrance to the Royal Courts of Justice, on Fleet Street, at 11.15 am. Please come down if you can!

 

[sd0324]

One of the first signs of oncoming tyranny is gun confiscation. Justice and the law are two distinctly different things now. All of Europe including the UK has switched to 'code napoleon' it's just that the populace hasn't been told. Like most of what has happened concerning the EU. I guess all you can do is be aware of this **** happening all around every day and stay vigilant. Dark days are surely ahead folks.

Yes, you are so correct,....but as you can see in the posts earlier,your populace seems to feel "safer". I hope the best for the Sarge,but this is a symptom of what seems to be coming. (again)

 

[old grumbler]

Yes, you are so correct,....but as you can see in the posts earlier,your populace seems to feel "safer". I hope the best for the Sarge,but this is a symptom of what seems to be coming. (again)[/quote]
Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither, now who said that?

 

[Gaudin]

A certain quote from "Team America" song springs to mind...hard to resist.

 

[Helm]

Oh good lord

 

[DEL]

This is what makes for a healthy forum, an open expression of opinion without going over into direct offence and insult.
The BIG issue for me is the broader impact on his family. Judges apply more than a little degree of discression in respect of sentencing and on the face of it the collateral 'damage' caused by this sentence has disproportionately punished his wife and children. Compare the impact on society of the criminal actions of some bankers. How many of them were jailed and for the very few that did get custodial sentences what was the impact on their pensions, prospects, homes, honours etc.

 

[DEL]

A certain quote from "Team America" song springs to mind...hard to resist.

Gaudin you have said more than once in this thread that it was your last comment, pity you hadn't left it at that. Team America lyrics really?
Derek

 

[Gaudin]

Gaudin you have said more than once in this thread that it was your last comment, pity you hadn't left it at that. Team America lyrics really?
Derek

Del, I said it was my last comment at that time. What can I say - I am easily trolled. I will learn.

Quote wise - it was Freedom is the only way, yeah. Each one's truth is most truthful.

And yet again - I also said that I recognise impact on his family and at no point i said it was ok or just, on the contrary - I think it isn't. My point was that I refuse to take one sided view of a biased newspaper that doesn't give all the facts, only what is convenient for the story. I am waiting for Thursday and, may be a surprise for some, waiting for the guy to be released

Now, may it come as a relief and joy to some - I truly finished.
Derek. thank you for reality check (honest)

 

[Helm]

This is what makes for a healthy forum, an open expression of opinion without going over into direct offence and insult.
The BIG issue for me is the broader impact on his family. Judges apply more than a little degree of discression in respect of sentencing and on the face of it the collateral 'damage' caused by this sentence has disproportionately punished his wife and children. Compare the impact on society of the criminal actions of some bankers. How many of them were jailed and for the very few that did get custodial sentences what was the impact on their pensions, prospects, homes, honours etc.

Couldn't agree more Del and that was done knowingly and willingly and deliberately, a fact that seems to have been overlooked in Danny Nightingales case.

Steve

 

[Mark S]

I'm just surprised the Telegraph stuck with his wife's real name. Surely throwing in the name Florence would've whipped up even more fervour.

 

[Helm]

Finally some common sense
Sgt Danny Nightingale, 37, from Crewe, admitted possessing the 9mm Glock pistol and 338 rounds of ammunition at a court martial earlier this month.
Judges at the Court of Appeal reduced Nightingale's sentence to 12 months.
They suspended the sentence and said he could be released immediately.

 

[baronband]

good to hear!

 

[sd0324]

Very good news.

 

[Jimmy S]

http://news.sky.com/story/1018457/nightingale-jailed-sas-sniper-walks-free

 

[Old Pete]

Hi There,
That is all great,but do,nt forget his sentence was reduced not Quashed so he will still have a criminal record.
Regards
George