WIP Teutonic Knight Grandmaster, Early 14th Century

[Briggsy]

The glazing is working a treat, just be careful and not get carried away!

Cheers Simon

 

[VerSacrum]

The glazing is working a treat, just be careful and not get carried away!

Cheers Simon

Yep that's been my problem with white - doesn't look white enough and then bam, suddenly too white.

Works really surpisingly well thus far on this figure though. Credit must be given to AV Deck Tan, Ivory and Yellow Ochre, such tremendously useful paints.

Meanwhile I found a cool pdf on academia.edu which explores the question whether and to what extend Teutonic Knights wore horns and similar ornamentations in the field so now I'm in the mood to do the helmet next and finish the final shading of the cloak once it's glued down.

 

[Briggsy]

There are some rather interesting articles published on that academia site, just can't get them from sending daily notification though!

Cheers Simon

 

[clubcat]

Interesting article. When I did some research of the early militant orders I found reference to the fact that all badges of rank and identifiers were not allowed in the Templer, Teuton or Hospitaller orders as they were men of god and all equal and humble, they were monks after all. So I find it interesting to see such rich paraphernalia displayed on models. I believe later hochmeisters were allowed an indicator of rank.
Melanie

 

[VerSacrum]

Interesting article. When I did some research of the early militant orders I found reference to the fact that all badges of rank and identifiers were not allowed in the Templer, Teuton or Hospitaller orders as they were men of god and all equal and humble, they were monks after all. So I find it interesting to see such rich paraphernalia displayed on models. I believe later hochmeisters were allowed an indicator of rank.
Melanie

Hey Melanie,

Horns are overdone on Teutonic models no doubt and if this were an ordinary "rank and file" one I'd snip them off.
From what I gathered in my own research, the order was in a constant struggle between members striving for personal glory and the basic ideas of monastic orders, meaning things that were weren't always as they're supposed to be.

For example, the Grand Master Dietrich von Altenburg expressly forbid personal coats of arms during his tenure between 1335 and 1341 (including for his own office which from then on was only allowed to carry the Golden Cross), which indicates that these were very much a thing before that and he had to "crack down" on the practice.

There is also the question of practicality of such ornaments in the field - you often hear that they were only used in tournaments, but I think this is false. Visual identification must have been just as important in the field, possibly even more so. They were detachable, made of painted paper mache, leather or wood so didn't weigh that much.

 

[VerSacrum]

First crack at the helm - I don't like the finish. Going to polish and try again tomorrow.

 

[Briggsy]

Looks good as is but maybe burnish the great helm a little more if you're going to redo it.

Cheers Simon

 

[VerSacrum]

Looks good as is but maybe burnish the great helm a little more if you're going to redo it.

Cheers Simon

Hey Simon
Yes, I repainted it - twice and I still thinks it looks too rough but I ran out of patience and wanted to call this one done.
Assembly went largely well, just a wee bit of putty needed.

Thanks again for the advice and comments


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....and you were completely right about the academia spam.

 

[lpa53]

A little too rough? I love it!

 

[clubcat]

Nice one, definitely looks the part. Congrats
Melanie

 

[BRAN]

Well done, I like it !!

 

[Briggsy]

It really looks great, I'm always impressed by knights, (but don't tell my wife!). I fully understand the lack of patience coming to the end of a project, always ready to start something new.

Cheers Simon