Three Mad men, 1/48 scale

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Ray

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These were sculpted with A+B, Magic Sculpted mixed with GS and, the usual brass wire and armature castings. In 1/48 scale their quite small so I wouldn't like claiming them as representing any real persons for fear of embarrassment. Still I hope you guys enjoy them a little and welcome any comments you might have to make.
 

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No need for embarrassment Ray, despite the tiny scale it's obvious who you've modelled here!

The Laurel and Hardy figures are exceptional, but the Chaplin figure is just stunning!

Cheers,
Jon.
 
Ray, outstanding detail for figures so small, especially like the sculpting of Charlie Chaplin - Superb.

Cheers Ken
 
Thanks guys, I really appreciate your comments. My fear always, is that after going cross-eyed for so long over a figure that it will not look as good to anyone else as it does to me, thus embarrassment. I'm almost certain that a newly finished figure looks much better to me at the time than it really is because I usually don't care for them much later and end up picking them apart (metaphorically) finding all the faults I overlooked while sculpting them. The benefit of this is of course, that it does tend to make me watch for repeat mistakes, and possibly helps me improve on future pieces.

Charlie is my current favorite as well though he was finished about a week before Laurel and Hardy. Oddly Hardy looked a lot better, proportionally, nude than with his cloths on and I was tempted to make a mold of him for use on future figures. What finally put me off the idea is acknowledgement of the above future criticisms, and that the practice of making a new nude might actually help in avoiding those.

Thanks again, your comments do inspire new work to be attempted.
 
Ray you know I love these - the last 2 are great - real inspiration for me as I just got a commission to do more for a friend
Ian
 
Janne,
I can't dispute it, especially in the photos and I'm not quite convinced the likeness is closer in life either. Really a shame that as it took me the better part of a week (part time) getting the face where it is. I suspect that a closer likeness would require a larger scale and more accomplished sculpter than myself. : ( Still I have hopes that when painted, if I ever get to see a painted version, he'll look more the part, the putty does strange things with light.

I like Chaplin a lot. But the face could have more likeness?

They do seem a bit stiff. However, I think they were meant to be, the photo I worked from (not that my sculpts are exact copies) were much the same. It looks to me that they were displaying their love hate relationship, as in the films, stiffly formal (the hate bit) but still inclining towards one another (the love bit). Perhaps not but it is the impression I got.


Hardy and Laurel is a great subject. The poses seems a little bit stiff?

Thanks for the comments, anyway. : )

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

Thanks Ian,
I'm pleased they appeal, especially if they inspire.


Ray
 
Perhaps with some primer on its easier to tell?

Chaplin is a trick himself as the makeup moustach he is associated with in his movies alters the main characters of the phase. Thinking a bit on it his face actually looks a bit like the +50 Chaplin? But perhaps its just me that rather see a younger version?

And of course should you be proud. I usually comment on the basis if I should buy the subject should it be commercially available. Wish I could do as good work myself.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson
 
Balázs,
Thank you I really appreciate it. But I can't help wondering if my little Chaplin would still be the best in the scale were there another one. lol

Marc,
Thank you as well, I'm beginning to be, though I would still hope for better in future. The problem now is I've used up three really good characters and wonder how much market there would ever be for additional works of the same guys.

Dan,
I appreciate it all and hope these guys really so good, but won't let myself believe it. Probably best that way, keeps me from getting a big head (which no-one really needs) and stopping attempts at future improvement.

Janne,
My fervent hope is that a bit of paint will show the faces to be just as good as my cross eyed self thought them when doing the work. Of course things could go badly and the paint might show something else entirely, like I completely bombed the job.

You're right on about the age, the primary picture I worked from for Chaplin's face was him as an older guy, probably 50-55. As always when working on a specific subject I made a lot of discoveries about his dress, hair, hats and all the rest that largely contradicted everything I had previously thought I knew about the mans appearance.

The original inspiration for Chaplin was (part, also because I was desperate for something inspiring to sculpt) the wonderful 54mm figure sculpted by Chang gun lee, and posted here earlier this year. His is, in my view, an almost perfect rendition of the real guy, so nicely done in fact that I actually purchased a pair of them from him. And I haven't painted a figure in ten years! Really, if you like Chaplin as a sculpt I'd recommend Chang gun lee's figure.

Thank you for both posts, I really do appreciate the comments, even when less than flattering. There's no better way for a guy to learn where to make improvements than to hear it from someone else, kind of bypasses the personal bias and helps get the blinders off.

Steve,
Thank you, 1/48 is becoming something of a specialty for me, though I never intended it to. It's been fun and challenging and I'm slowly learning what can be, err at least what I can do in the scale. Interestingly the greatest part of making improvements for me has come from seeing demonstrated what can be done by someone who is truly skilled. I think of Tom Meier now, until last year I had never even heard of him, but having seen the amazing stuff he's done in scales as small, and smaller than 1/48 really opened my eyes to new possibilities. Now I've got the problem of having to learn to do all that is possible. Haven't quite gotten there yet, but have stopped taking short cuts with these little guys and blaming it on the scale. My earlier figures (not just in 1/48) really do suck.



Ray
 
Yes Ray Tom is an inspiration - the guys who do some of the GW stuff in 28mm are also fabulous- Brian Nielsen -met him in syney once and watch him push some putty around - fabulous - like you I have found I love the smaller scales -(after all 200 bears) am looking for something else to do - Have seen a great toy pny that would allow a Hobbit style figure or a dwarf
Ian
 
Hi Ray!

Im glad you take my comments that way.

I could not find the Chaplin figure you mentioned, is it possible to link to a picture of it?

I like Chaplin, Keaton, Bean, Laurel and Hardy for their timeless nonverbal humour. It still works today and you learn a lot about body language just by watching. I have some of the old Laurel and Hardy flicks booked on my videostore as some DVD´s recently have been released.

Keep us updated on this project, I sure would like to see the end result.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson
 
Janne,
I'm lousy about keeping track of where all the pictures come from as I just print them as soon as found and move on to the next. However, having looked again the following are the main two I did most of the sculpting from, though there were several more just to get a better feel for the subject. I hope and trust that the links work for you.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zqFoq3qej2c/Sa81HzYLeNI/AAAAAAAAmxk/xHTXKrAkDBU/s400/Charlie_Chaplin.jpg

http://img3.sidereel.com/_icon/24a0.jpg

This is a younger version of Chaplin so not my primary reference, but useful anyway.

http://ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads_img/sir_charles_chaplins.jpg

I still can't claim to have gotten the likeness as close as could be wished for, but as I take it as an exercise I'm contented for now that I've made some slight progress in improvement. Too bad it takes so long to make these desired improvements, a first masterpiece would be so satisfying to finally achieve.

Interesting your take on this being a project, mmm, you might have something there if I can just find that next most inspiring character. Bean appeals most at the moment, though your other suggestions certainly have merit too. I'm not too keen just now on an Abbott and Costello because they are so much a pair like L&H, maybe as a future project though. Now I can't remember who mentioned these two, perhaps someone in an e-mail.

Thanks again for you interest and especially for taking time to communicate your thoughts on the subject. It does make me think how I might make improvements on future figures, and that is priceless.

Ray
 
Hehe, Abbott and Costello would make a great pair, no doubt. Much character over their appearance. So would the Marx Brothers.

I also always like the feature of the british actor Robert Newton, especially when portraying Long John Silver in Treasure Island.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson
 
Yes and ron Moody's Fegan in Oliver - The three stooges , Gomer Pyle and his Sgt, Bilko (the original Phil Silvers) so many fabulous characters from film and TV - The Character from Casablanca, see what happens when you open a door mate - just some suggestions to keep the Juices flowing - me it would be Astro boy or Marine boy
 
All three are wonderful figures Ray. I have been thinking about doing a Laurel and Hardy for years. I did a Chaplain on roller skates some years ago that was really well received. Inspiring work especially at 1/48 scale.
 

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