Vallelo colour wash's. & what thoughs?

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Has any body tinkered with this range of washes! .. and know how they are, once cured. Are they anything like the, 'Andrea ink', range which come up very 'Glossy'... any thoughts would be appreciated!



Regards,

Mark

 

[valiant]

Mark,
Ive used some of them, yes, they do dry a bit glossy. The skin tone is a bit on the "red" side on its own so tone it down a bit with the sepia. If you use them, thin them down a bit as they are quite strong straight from the bottle. Great for small scale and wargame figures.

Steve

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Mark,
Ive used some of them, yes, they do dry a bit glossy. The skin tone is a bit on the "red" side on its own so tone it down a bit with the sepia. If you use them, thin them down a bit as they are quite strong straight from the bottle. Great for small scale and wargame figures.

Steve

Thanks Steve, ... However, a follow through question! ... to thin these do you use standard water, or distilled/ de-ionised ?... every time I try to dilute/thin the inks! I get the horrible watermarks! being in a 'Hard-Water', area ! .. and was wondering if the same thing applies to these !

Mark

 

[kagemusha]

Mark, boil a kettle of water and let it stand, then pour into a screw top bottle and keep, it's the same as distilled. Also, add a drop or two of IPA (not the beer) when thinning acrylics, it breaks down the surface tension of the water, which increases the 'flow' properties.
It also ensures a flat finish as a bonus.

Ron

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Mark, boil a kettle of water and let it stand, then pour into a screw top bottle and keep, it's the same as distilled. Also, add a drop or two of IPA (not the beer) when thinning acrylics, it breaks down the surface tension of the water, which increases the 'flow' properties.
It also ensures a flat finish as a bonus.

Ron

Thanks Ron! ..... However are you sure about the IPA (not being beer)... seems a damn shame!

 

[valiant]

Mark,
Ive just used tap water, no more, no less! We're in a hard water area, but not really noticed any problem - but I bow to those who know much more than I do on acrylics!!

Steve

 

[Gellso]

Hi mate,
I tried these and they dry with a glossy sheen.
I use oil washes and invariably they dry
with a matt finish.
Gells

 

[Gerry]

Hi Mark
Just use oil washes mate! as Gellso stated they dry matt! and thats a big bonus! all this wash stuff is in my mind a bit o f a cop out, and a money spinner
for the likes of Andrea etc , get yourself some oils and try them out, much better and the bonus of drying matt, and Cheaper!

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Thanks guys! .. for the most part I do use oils! however not so much as a wash, which is something I should look into more closely. I guess I am copping out and being lazy, with looking at these lol! but it is always handy to know the thoughts of others!

Regards,

Mark

 

[tonydawe]

Mark,

I've used both the Vallejo Sepia Shade and the Black shade, and yes they do dry glossy if you don't thin them with water.

The value of these shades is that they can be used to create a slightly faded or aged look to a fabric just by adding a couple of drops to the base colour. It's a very subtle effect and helps with blending and transitions. The black shade is particularly helpful to create an intermediate shading effect between the base colour and first and second shadow colours.

I use Sepia to add to skin tones, especially if I want the skin to look slightly tanned or to emphasise creases in the skin.

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Thanks Tony! .. ironically it was both the Sepia, and the Black! .. that piqued my interest. but wanted to know what I would be dealing with!

Cheers,

Mark

 

[skeeterbuck]

Mark, I suggest that you give them a try. I have several of the Andrea inks and if you use them without much dilution they do dry rather glossy. The more you thin them the flatter they get. The ones I have came with their gold paint sets (yellow/brown/black). If you do decide to try them, as always, do some experimenting before using them on a figure. They are rather strong and even thinned they still can drastically alter the base color. Good luck!

Chuck

 

[housecarl]

If you don't like the shine, a touch of Tamiya X21 works wonders.
Carl.

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

If you don't like the shine, a touch of Tamiya X21 works wonders.
Carl.

Thanks! HC, ........ at the moment, I am about to have a real 'Hissy-Fit',.... about to take back, X-amount of hours of work! .. Grrrrr . Walking away !!! 'Bloody-Figures',.. lol!

So this X21 would be mixed in with the wash, or applied later ? ... I have not just Tamiya for years !

Regards,

Mark

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

..... I feel much better now !!

 

[skeeterbuck]

View attachment 131242 ..... I feel much better now !!

Best advice I can give is to just walk away. You probably trying "too hard". It will usually when you approach it with a fresh pair of eyes. Hang in there!

Chuck

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Cheers, Chuck!... Its a case of the colours are 'Bang-on',... but the finish is way off !.... stepping back and re appraising ! ... (Before execution by .22 pellet)! lol!

 

[housecarl]

Add a touch of X21 to the water just enough to slightly cloud it. Too much and you'll get a chalky residue,
I wouldn't want to add to your woes.
Carl.

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

Add a touch of X21 to the water just enough to slightly cloud it. Too much and you'll get a chalky residue,
I wouldn't want to add to your woes.
Carl.

Bloody Hobby !!! lol!

 

[Helm]

It's roughly a ratio of 1:6 for X21 but like Carl said just turn the water opaque if all else fails mate use Humbrol enamel matt varnish

Steve