Warning: Do Not Deal w/Raisa Rafael of Brazil

[elgreco]

yes, they were provided with the tracking information,and from what they tell me ,this was the credit card companies decision and not theirs, but yet Paypal themselves have still not represented me like they should during this claim.

Did you contact Brazil Post Office to obtain proof of delivery? That is, did Rafael have to sign for receipt of item? When we obtained the image of the signature showing proof of delivery, for the first case, Paypal fought on our behalf with the card issuers. You need to be persistent and phone them and fax them every single possible piece of information.

 

[Blackship]

yes, they were provided with the tracking information,and from what they tell me ,this was the credit card companies decision and not theirs, but yet Paypal themselves have still not represented me like they should during this claim.

Did you actually check by yourself with the tracking number you had on the Coreios site ? It it shows up don't let it go ! Also go to your local post file a trace request and complain and involve them into it .

 

[elgreco]

Very important: anyone who have dealt with him (Soga, ElGrego, Sloan) may provide me a IP number ?

I have the informations about a "suspect" and would like to cross that with the people that have been scammed. Send me by inbox.

Filipe - what is the IP number please?
Celine

 

[Filipe]

Celine

I´ve sent you in private.

 

[elgreco]

Thanks Filipe - I thought you meant the transaction number or something like that. Not sure if we still have this information as this happened a couple of years ago. But will try to look it up.

 

[TCSloan]

It shows it was delivered, I cannot read the details in that language,but heres the customs numbers CJ171459150US
CJ171928238US
The only word useful I can make out is DELIVERED.

 

[Blackship]

It shows it was delivered, I cannot read the details in that language,but heres the customs numbers CJ171459150US
CJ171928238US
The only word useful I can make out is DELIVERED.

19/02/2013 19:30 Entrega Efetuada : delivered .
Its hard to believe that all this information was thrown away by paypal and credit card company .
They verify shipping & delivery confirmation with postal services before a decision is made !

 

[pmfs]

It shows it was delivered, I cannot read the details in that language,but heres the customs numbers CJ171459150US
CJ171928238US
The only word useful I can make out is DELIVERED.

Yes, you are right both itens was delivered in the same area from Rio de Janeiro, BOTAFOGO. Really dont understand paypal.
Yesterday someone from US buy me a item in ebay and paid me £100, but wants the item shipped to Nigeria to a verified adress in Lagos. After that, received 2 email´s from Paypal one with the money in my account other asking me to provide the tracking number. I didn´t send anything because the money was not in my account. Those scammers are everyday better and better, we have to be careful with them. I am thinking close my paypal account soon.

Pedro

 

[Filipe]

Guys

It´s the following.

Sloan made the same posts in other forums, like Hyperscale. And it reached the biggest brazilian modellers forum, which my friend is a moderator.

The data of the guy is:

Flavio Lucio da Silva
Rua Dois de Dezembro,77 Apto-602-Flamengo
Rio de Janeiro -RJ-Brasil
22220-040

His emails are: [email protected] ; [email protected]

His blog: http://guevarafiguras.blogspot.com.br/

His user name here at planetFigure is Guevara.

The link of the Brazilian post office, showing that the package was delivered and the post office agency matches the adress: http://websro.correios.com.br/sro_b...LINGUA=001&P_TIPO=001&P_COD_UNI=CJ171928238US

A brazilian forum where he has just been blocked: http://webkits.infopop.cc/eve/forum...19603841&m=3277034073&r=7617044073#7617044073

If people who handle business wants he IP adress, send me a inbox. I will not post it in public, because it is an illegal exposure.

He is also a member of SpanishTeam forum, so, if anyone is also a member there, could spread the word, it would be a lot of help.

Finally, i am not doing this for personnal reasons, i dont even know the guy. I am not doing this for "mob mentality" or "witch hunt". I am doing this because a whole modeller comunity cannot be blammed for the fault of one person (a member of Hyperscale already said that he will not sell to Brazil anymore).

Again, my apologies to the ones who lost their money and i hope that the information above is of some help to avoid more people being frauded.

 

[ChaosCossack]

Way to go Filipe!!!
People like this need to be outed so they can't skulk around in the shadows, ripping people off and making others in his area look bad.

Bravo

Colin

 

[elgreco]

That's the guy! Shops beware!!

We're surprised re Paypal - maybe the Business team here in the UK is more pro-active, then?? As I said, they were extremely helpful to us and persisted in both our cases to revert the funds to our account. It took about 4-6 weeks in both cases for the issues to be resolved.

If the guy orders again, just refund immediately via Paypal (not bank transfer or anything else). Like that it's all on record.

 

[Filipe]

I appreciate the messages, but thanks are not in order today, guys. People lost money because of that person, it´s the least we could do.

And, Sloan, i did not said that it was your case. But, it can be the case of others. Anyway, i hope that Sloan can reclain his money, and that a lot of people see this thread and spread the word.

 

[Filipe]

Well, he sent me emails, a little angry, and asked me for post his explanations here. To be fair, i will post them here. I am not a judge, i am only trying to help.

In short, he said he and his wife (Raisa Rafael) wore/are victims of a credit card fraud. He says that he won an judicial action in brazilian justice some time ago, and his wife is with two judicial actions currently. He also says that he even received a credit card already frauded, still on the bank mail.Besides that, some outflow and finger-pointing at me.

For those who want to read the full emails, in portuguese, ask me for the link.

As i said, i am not a judge, so i´ve sent an email to Chuck of RedLancers, to ask for his side of the history, also. Celine and Sloan have spoken, and Soga is here at planetFigure.

Filipe

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Strange that this person committting the fraud also is interested in models. And why have them delivered to the actual adress of the cardholder?

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

 

[blaster]

Is it possible for you to approach the Brazilian small claims court? They are probably the correct and most practical way to seek legal redress for overseas transactions.

Rgds Victor

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Not to mention how people like that hurt this community.

This is a blow to our brotherhood. We are a small brotherhood and we might have our quarrells and differences. But this is still a brotherhood that spans all over the world. Where so many have reached out so many times to help and support a fellow modeller. And I think we all can say that we have benefited from it in some way.

What these people do, is that they sow mistrust thus hurting the community and comradeship. What Im afraid off is that if to many behaves like this, it will be the end of the friendly helpful and supporting athmosphere that have been here at Planet Figure and many other sites.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

 

[TCSloan]

Strange that this person committting the fraud also is interested in models. And why have them delivered to the actual adress of the cardholder?

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

Exactly! But Paypal ignores it.. and also, this guy is trying to defend himself here, but even after he's received the kits at his address,he does not offer to return them,since he's "innocent"

 

[blaster]

See this website:
http://thebrazilbusiness.com/article/small-claims-in-brazil

As I was browsing thru it, a box appeared and offered advice on how to proceed with making small claims. Perhaps all aggrieved parties can do coordinated complaints against this person to pursue this matter.

Rgds Victor

 

[Filipe]

Victor

The small clains its impossible, because only the victim may open the case. Sloan would have to come to Brazil for that.

I will seek for information with some friends of mine.

I am already looking for what can be done, i´ve talked with Chuck and have a conversation, here, with Sloan. Unfortunately, the due legal process is too expensive, because, for example, Sloan would need to have a representative (a lawyer) here in Brazil, and hire a "legal translator", a person, authorized by law, to translate official documents (the brazilian legal term is "tradutor juramentado").

Filipe

 

[blaster]

Hi Filipe,

Just sharing my experience.

Some years back, I had to deal with an overseas non-performance transaction from a toy soldier dealer in Australia. I paid by Visa but the goods were never posted to me. I sought redress thru the Australian High Comm, who directed me to the appropriate Australian State Small Claims Court. I wrote to them with full documentation, was invited to turn up for the local court hearing but did not turn up for the court hearing and neither did the other side, and finally the case was settled in my favour after about 2 years.

I guess I was lucky and the money was eventually transacted back to me after the Australian Court wrote a legal seizure letter to the other side copied myself.

The whole process was only the cost of several registered letters written to the Aussie court and to the named defendant. But you have to be persistent.

Here I see a clearcut case of a name, address for which several complainants on this website could band together and pursue a similar route.

Rgds Victor