WIP Colonel Charles Dupin

[Nap]

Hi Guys ,

After my review of this recent release from Ellie's Miniatures , I decided to get it on the bench , looking at the references I also wanted to change a few things to get a closer representation.

So after nearly 2 days of magisculpt eating I had...

Reworked all the medals after dremelling off the original , this was my choice !!! I started with a blank canvas again and put all the lacework back on adding an additional one just under the left arm , then came the medals themselves ...a lot more details will be shown with the painting .




I also added some decoration at the back



I detailed up the pistol , replacing the ramrod with a suitable sized pin and adding a carrying ring on the handle as well as drilling the barrel.



I also added a bit of decoration around the sombrero and some lacing around the collar using fine lead strip.



and the shoulder cording .





These are a couple of my main references:

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Top Row from the left

These are :Crimean medal , ( UK) (the reference shows 3 clasps) , the Mexican Expedition (French) , Italian Campaign(French) ,China Medal (French)

Bottom Row from the left



These are : Cross of St Maurice and Lazarus (Sardinia) , Order of Medjidie (Turkey) , Valour Medal (Sardinia)


The state of play at the moment...

Arms both in position , head in place , on base ..all ready for priming and base coating

I will try and updated whenever possible

Thanks for looking in

Nap

 

[akaryu]

Quite an undertaking! This will be a bust painter's dream. You will be watched very closely Nap

 

[Zastrow.cuirassier]

A superb work, sculpture and documentation.
The illustration representing the Colonel, it seems he wears the Legion of Honor around the neck, so the rank of "Commandeur".

 

[Nap]

Hi Guys ,

Thanks for the comments , it is a painter's dream , I am pleased with the result

ZC ,

Was thinking of adding this as well ...will have to take a Valium before !..thanks for the picture

There are also pics of hm wearing medals in a different order including the legion of Honneur

Keep watch folks

Nap

 

[Zastrow.cuirassier]

Hi Guys ,

Thanks for the comments , it is a painter's dream , I am pleased with the result

ZC ,

Was thinking of adding this as well ...will have to take a Valium before !..thanks for the picture

There are also pics of hm wearing medals in a different order including the legion of Honneur

Keep watch folks

Nap

Photo contradicts illustration and makes more sense.
I had not noticed the first time I saw the bust.
The order of the medals is more logical in the photo.
The French first medals are in first as provided military regulations.
We can try to recognize in order :
Legion d'Honneur (around the neck- "Commandeur " rank), the Mexican Expedition , Italian Campaign or China Medal, Crimean medal ,Order of Medjidie, Cross of St Maurice and Lazarus and Valour Medal (Sardinia)
So Nap a trip to the pharmacy for the stock of Valium, Xanax ...

 

[Gaudin]

That hat doesnt sit right on his head, easy to fix. Judging by review pictures you will need to fix sleeve clover pipings too.

Otherwise you must be really enjoying the medals

 

[ellie]

Well Nap you went to town on this one a little bit LOL. Their are so many variations on him from Photos to painting and each one has it's own merits but pinning down to one to produce a bust was a nightmare for both Moz and Us. so we settled on what was released.

Have to say the medals were the one thing that did cause us a problem or two lol. but it worked out in the end. you are a brave man to change the whole line up nap but have to say it worked out well and a joy to look at well done mate.

we are watching with interest as to how this one turns out.

Cheers

Ian

www.elliesminiatures.com

 

[Zastrow.cuirassier]

Frenchies was also the nightmare of the English!
Henri V

 

[smudger1960]

Looks like an interesting project kev

 

[ellie]

You Can say that again Zastrow

ian

www.elliesminiatures.com

 

[Nap]

That hat doesnt sit right on his head, easy to fix. Judging by review pictures you will need to fix sleeve clover pipings too.

Otherwise you must be really enjoying the medals

D ,

The hat seems to look okay but please tell me what you suggest for it ( move forwRd more maybe ?) and the "sleeve cover piping?"


ZC,
Cheers for that info ..I am working with the illustration from the. Ann K Brown collection print .

The commabeur order with Eagle or a face ?

Nap

 

[ellie]

Hi Nap That's a nice print and looks like it's being a help to you. the sleeve Cover piping I don't quite know what is meant by that ?

still keep it up mate

Ian

www.elliesminiatures.com

 

[Kevindunne]

Awesome piece...have already ordered mine...for the lunatics out there...I have a flat of this piece....in 30mm...anyone care to have a go at the medals???

 

[Nap]

Hi Ian ,

Think D means the hat is a little too far back but not sure what he means either?

Nap

 

[Wayneb]

Really like that Nap....

 

[akaryu]

As we never wore this kind of headdress in the Belgian army I'm far from being an expert in this matter, but what Gaudin mentions might be this:

The sombrero seems to be shifted too far to the rear

Keep it going Nap!

 

[Nap]

Cheers akarya,

Thanks for that ....had a disaster ...the sombrero has shattered .........email sent to Ian ...it's going to cost me at least a coffee !

Good thing neck came away cleanly but head was pinned and glued ...so that needs replacing as well !

Now I can get to the neck for th Commander Legion of Honneur !!!

Thanks for the input always welcome

Nap

 

[Zastrow.cuirassier]

To try to be simple, the French military regulations concerning medals is pretty clear.
The order is as follows (from right to left starting at the top):
Legion of Honor, Ordre National du Mérite, medaille militaire, Croix de Guerre (several types), medals campaigns date obtained or seniority of the campaign.
Next come the foreign medals, according to their seniority, but sometimes according to their value, sometimes also by country !!!!
But the military medal can be worn before any others?
Another feature, the order of liberation no one can receive it now, it can be worn before any medal or after the Legion of Honour.
You follow me ?
I made it simple !!!!
But a soldier can receive French and foreign civil medals, there it is complicated, so we will avoid the subject.
This is what it can give:
For one of our most celebrated generals, General Bigeard:

Title of French decorations
Grand-croix de la Légion d’honneur
Croix de guerre 1939-1945 avec 7 citations dont 3 à l'ordre de l'armée (palmes)
Croix de guerre des Théâtres d'opérations extérieures avec 17 citations dont 12 à l'ordre de l'armée
Croix de la Valeur militaire avec 4 citations à l'ordre de l'armée
Médaille de la Résistance (décret du 6/09/1945)
Médaille des évadés
Médaille coloniale agrafes « Extrême-Orient » et "A.O.F"
Médaille commémorative de la guerre 1939-1945
Médaille commémorative de la campagne d'Indochine
Médaille commémorative des opérations de sécurité et de maintien de l'ordre en Afrique du Nord
Médaille des blessés militaires avec cinq étoiles (pour cinq blessures de guerre)
Titles of foreign decorations
Distinguished Service Order (DSO)
Grand-Officier du Mérite Sénégalais
Grand-Officier du Mérite Togolais
Grand-Officier du Mérite Comorien
Grand-Officier Arabie saoudite
Commandeur de l'ordre du Mérite national mauritanien
Commandeur du Mérite centrafricain
Commandeur fédération pays Thaï
Commandeur du Dragon d'Annam
Commandeur Legion of Merit (US)
Officier de l'Ordre du Million d’Éléphants et du Parasol blanc (Laos)
And I did not previously have cited some medals
Other famous decorated military, General Salan, may be the most decorated soldier in France

Légion d'honneur
- Chevalier le 5 avril 1922
- Officier le 21 août 1940
- Commandeur le 10 février 1945
- Grand officier le 27 octobre 1948
- Grand croix le 28 août 1952

Médaille militaire
Croix de guerre 14-18 1 citation
Croix de guerre 1939-1945 8 citations
Croix de guerre TOE 7 citations
Croix de la Valeur militaire 1 citation
Croix du combattant volontaire 1914-1918
Croix du combattant
Médaille coloniale agrafe EXTREME ORIENT
Ordre de l'Étoile noire Grand Croix
Ordre du Dragon d'Annam Grand Croix à titre militaire
Ordre royal du Cambodge Grand Croix
Ordre du Million d’Éléphants et du Parasol blanc Grand Croix
Ordre du Mérite civil Taï Grand Croix
Ordre du Dragon d'Annam Grand Croix à titre civil
Ordre du Nichan Iftikhar Grand Croix
Ordre royal du Cambodge Officier
Ouissam alaouite Grand Croix
Ordre de l'Étoile d'Anjouan Grand Croix
Étoile des Comores Grand Croix
Médaille de l'Aéronautique
Ordre royal Muniseraphon du Cambodge
Croix de la bravoure vietnamienne 1 citation
Médaille de la Défense nationale du Cambodge
Médaille commémorative de Syrie-Cilicie
Ordre du mérite syrien
Médaille interalliée 1914-1918
Médaille commémorative de la guerre 1914-1918
Médaille commémorative de la guerre 1939-1945 avec agrafes AFRIQUE, ITALIE, FRANCE, ALLEMAGNE
Insigne des blessés militaires
Ordre du Mérite militaire d'Annam
Ordre du Règne du roi Savang Vatthana
Ordre du Mérite Militaire Thaï (1950-1954)
Médaille commémorative de la campagne d'Italie 1943-1944
Médaille commémorative de la campagne d'Indochine
Médaille commémorative des opérations de sécurité et de maintien de l'ordre en Afrique du Nord avec agrafe ALGÉRIE
Foreign medals :
Distinguished Service Cross
Commander of the Order of the British Empire
Campaign of Vietnam (Thailand)
Military Merit Sena Jay Assed (Cambodia)
By looking at the decorations you will see that the military medal is before others
Hoping to have been clear!

 

[akaryu]

What about a bust of Général Bigeard with beret of course and wearing the full version of all his medals/decorations? I hope to see this one day before my eyesight fails to paint them!

 

[Nap]

Guys ,

Goodness me ....YES to that bust ...my eye's have lit up ...ribbons only as well ....so should be easier to paint.!.....not!



Great reference there ZC ...in my book!

Off to do a legion of Honneur neck award ...easy to get to now I have taken the damaged head etc off ....every cloud has a silver lining as they say !..lol

Nap