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Steve Ski
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Howdy Kilgore, thanks for watching. With these figures I do a full assembly, but each head is temporarily held in place with Elmer's wood glue. I will remove them and paint each head separately. I hate fighting gear or any obstructions when I'm working the faces. Snag the kit while they're hot, it's a beauty!
Roger that Red, she's a comin along. Flingin paint soon, I'm stoked!
Roger that Red, she's a comin along. Flingin paint soon, I'm stoked!
Dolf
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"I have just curiosity... do you assemble completely the figure before painting?"
I was thinking the same
"With these figures I do a full assembly, but each head is temporarily held in place with Elmer's wood glue. I will remove them and paint each head separately."
But all the other parts, arms, legs, boots, you do assemble them prior to painting, even before priming...
At least so far I've always primed and painted all parts separately, as I find it hard to paint the arms, for instance, on a full assembled figure (and I mean a 120mm, or 1/16 one).
But will follow closely your progress and may change that, and try to fully assemble one of my next figures before painting it.
Cheers!
I was thinking the same
"With these figures I do a full assembly, but each head is temporarily held in place with Elmer's wood glue. I will remove them and paint each head separately."
But all the other parts, arms, legs, boots, you do assemble them prior to painting, even before priming...
At least so far I've always primed and painted all parts separately, as I find it hard to paint the arms, for instance, on a full assembled figure (and I mean a 120mm, or 1/16 one).
But will follow closely your progress and may change that, and try to fully assemble one of my next figures before painting it.
Cheers!
Hi Ski
Another good looking piece on the figure , just oozing details
Glad your enjoying this ...I certainly am
Interesting ref that putty ...might have to source some
Thanks for sharing
Happy benchtime
Nap
Another good looking piece on the figure , just oozing details
Glad your enjoying this ...I certainly am
Interesting ref that putty ...might have to source some
Thanks for sharing
Happy benchtime
Nap
Steve Ski
A Fixture
Hi Dolf.
Ya Buddy, I do assemble almost the entire figure first, before primer. The rifles are molded with the hands in this case, so there's no separation there, but I would do them separately if I could.
It really depends on the figure and how it's sculpted. My SBS', "U-Boat Watch Officer", https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/alpines-1-16th-scale-german-u-boat-watch-officer.118351/ , there's not much gear there, but the concept is the same, the head is painted separately, but the figure is otherwise fully assembled. It can be a pain to paint around gear, etc, but sometimes they can't be separated. I personally feel the figure flows much better tonal-wise when the main body is assembled and painted. The gear, heck ya, do that separate, if you are able to, but this is not always the case.
Clear as mud, I know, but I hope that helps, Dolf.
Nap, thanks Amigo. I'll bet you guys have tube putty similar to the Testors across the pond. It was a fluke experiment for me, turns out it works quite well. The Bren gunner is in progress, but then things will slow quite a bit once the paint starts flyin. I'm a slow painter, HA!
Thanks Gents!
Ya Buddy, I do assemble almost the entire figure first, before primer. The rifles are molded with the hands in this case, so there's no separation there, but I would do them separately if I could.
It really depends on the figure and how it's sculpted. My SBS', "U-Boat Watch Officer", https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/alpines-1-16th-scale-german-u-boat-watch-officer.118351/ , there's not much gear there, but the concept is the same, the head is painted separately, but the figure is otherwise fully assembled. It can be a pain to paint around gear, etc, but sometimes they can't be separated. I personally feel the figure flows much better tonal-wise when the main body is assembled and painted. The gear, heck ya, do that separate, if you are able to, but this is not always the case.
Clear as mud, I know, but I hope that helps, Dolf.
Nap, thanks Amigo. I'll bet you guys have tube putty similar to the Testors across the pond. It was a fluke experiment for me, turns out it works quite well. The Bren gunner is in progress, but then things will slow quite a bit once the paint starts flyin. I'm a slow painter, HA!
Thanks Gents!
Dolf
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Thanks a lot, Steve
Actually I find your explanation crystal clear
And it definitely helps
Yes, the weapons I think it's better to paint separately (when possible), as well as the head, and IMO the hands too (whenever possible) .
I'll try your method with my next figure
Thanks again!
Cheers!
Actually I find your explanation crystal clear
And it definitely helps Yes, the weapons I think it's better to paint separately (when possible), as well as the head, and IMO the hands too (whenever possible) .
I'll try your method with my next figure
Thanks again!
Cheers!
Steve Ski
A Fixture
Good deal Dolf. Post em when ya got em.
Hi Steve
Had a dig through my stuff this is what I use from Jo Sonja ....works well not on,y for texture but also filler
Look forward to updates ...it's going to be worth it
Happy benchtime
Nap
Had a dig through my stuff this is what I use from Jo Sonja ....works well not on,y for texture but also filler
Look forward to updates ...it's going to be worth it
Happy benchtime
Nap
Steve Ski
A Fixture
If that works Nap, you're good. I've never used that stuff myself.
Steve Ski
A Fixture
Bren Gunner
Ok, the Bren Gunner is ready for clean-up and assembly. Like the last three figures, clean-up is minimal. The gun bi-pod and carry handle are on a separate sprue. The only issue I had was making sure the Bren actually fit into it's logical position as intended.
Here's the Lad, all assembled and ready for duty. I followed the same process as the last three crew members. This one assembles in the same straight forward manner, just like the rest. The pose may look a bit odd right now, but once he's in the crater it will all make sense. And no, he's not doing the side stroke, in case you were wondering, lol.
In the crater he goes, and the fit is perfect. Each figure sits within the crater nicely, naturally. There weren't any odd angles to play with and there wasn't any need to adjust any figure poses. The hard work was already done.
Fitting the Bren was a bit like playing with fiddly bits. My sausage fingers were getting in the way every time I tried to adjust the weapon to the figure. Unfortunately I broke the left blade for the front sight in the process and the trigger guard as well. Nothing that can't be fixed in a jiffy. I just used the scrap resin from the kit and whittled out new ones.
This Bren is pretty dang accurate, like as in, spot on. It's a beauty. Steve has one heck of a line-up of weapons available in several scales on his site and they are all top notch. This one is no exception.
So, this wraps up the assembly portion of the vignette and now it's time for some paint.
Tanks for watchin. Cheers, Ski.
Ok, the Bren Gunner is ready for clean-up and assembly. Like the last three figures, clean-up is minimal. The gun bi-pod and carry handle are on a separate sprue. The only issue I had was making sure the Bren actually fit into it's logical position as intended.
Here's the Lad, all assembled and ready for duty. I followed the same process as the last three crew members. This one assembles in the same straight forward manner, just like the rest. The pose may look a bit odd right now, but once he's in the crater it will all make sense. And no, he's not doing the side stroke, in case you were wondering, lol.
In the crater he goes, and the fit is perfect. Each figure sits within the crater nicely, naturally. There weren't any odd angles to play with and there wasn't any need to adjust any figure poses. The hard work was already done.
Fitting the Bren was a bit like playing with fiddly bits. My sausage fingers were getting in the way every time I tried to adjust the weapon to the figure. Unfortunately I broke the left blade for the front sight in the process and the trigger guard as well. Nothing that can't be fixed in a jiffy. I just used the scrap resin from the kit and whittled out new ones.
This Bren is pretty dang accurate, like as in, spot on. It's a beauty. Steve has one heck of a line-up of weapons available in several scales on his site and they are all top notch. This one is no exception.
So, this wraps up the assembly portion of the vignette and now it's time for some paint.
Tanks for watchin. Cheers, Ski.
VisjeMar
A Fixture
very cool, a really nice setting. I was wondering how the fit was in the crater but it looks spot on. some minor weathering when finished will make it work together.
The bren looks excellent. A friend of mine made a 3d Copy of a original. But this one looks good aswell.
The bren looks excellent. A friend of mine made a 3d Copy of a original. But this one looks good aswell.
Jed
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Steve, it just gets better
Steve Ski
A Fixture
Thanks VM, this is coming together quickly. I was always impressed at how sculptors have the ability to replicate, with such accuracy, long arms in scale. Now that is some serious "micro" tinkering, IMHO.
Thanks Jed, paint is on the palette.
Thanks Jed, paint is on the palette.
Steve Ski
A Fixture
Flingin Paint! Steady ar she goes mate, slow speed ahead!
Boy, it's only been nineteen months since I've done any figure painting. Missing a bunker season of "sniffin paint and gluin them fingers together" can get to ya, if ya know what I mean.But, whether it's been six months or nineteen months I pretty much have to relearn my prior techniques every season.Call it a warm up before the workout.No worries, this will be a crash course of sorts.Remember, I have my trusty can of "Easy Off" oven cleaner just in case.
I always try to incorporate new techniques with each new set of figures. There's a heck of a lot of incredible talent out there to learn from, all having their own way of flingin paint, so I study their work and try to learn from "them".
Worth mentioning
I'll be starting back up where I left off at the end of my last bunker session. I've mentioned this before in my Sub Gun Deck SBS; During the Fall/Winter of 2018-19 I started working a new technique I picked up from a canvas oil painter. Strange, I know, but the concept is the same, just in an incredibly smaller scale.
The lessons I've learned from watching the oil painter "Daria Callie" seem to work well so far, at least for me. The only difference is the blending, or not blending, of the oils in the process.One key noticeable difference in how she paints on canvas and how most of us paint faces on resin.Most of us oilers use an acrylic color base before we apply the oils.Daria uses a grey base tone to keep the neutrality of the colors more readily visible during the painting process.I see her point.
Note:I do not use this technique for uniforms or gear, only on faces and flesh tones.This is my weakest link, so this is my focal point needing of much more improvement.
I've worked this technique several times now and it seems to work well for me, as long as I remember to use an acrylic primer for the flesh tones or seal the oil based primer before working the oils. Why?I use thinner quite often when I work the oils and the primer can disappear on you quick if you neglect to seal it.The oils will have nothing to cling to and off it goes with each stroke of the brush, yikes!I gotta remember that,..........
Palette and the line-up
So, here's the palette for the flesh tones with numerous blended tones to choose from. Taking notes from Daria's videos I start with the five basic colors; Cadmium Yellow, Cadmium Red, Burnt Umber, Ultra Marine Blue, and Titanium White.Yes, even on this little palette I used a small palette knife to mix the tones, works just fine.My palette is just a piece of thick poster board covered with wax paper.After each session I place the palette in a cheap plastic sealable container and into the freezer or refer it goes.This keeps the oils workable for an extended period of time.
As you can see I have "'Ol One Eye" in the background for moral support. He was my first attempt, trial run if you will, at using this technique. I was impressed with the results and also how quickly he began to take shape. Sweeeet!
The Sub Gun Deck Captain head was done using Daria's technique as well. So, if you can get past the visible brush marks, lol, you can see the flesh tones look acceptable for a serious first run.Still more work to be done, of course.
First up to bat are the faces, always. Painting the faces first gives me the confidence right up front.Large scale figures will show you all your mistakes and will shout at you quickly, lol.I'm not afraid to start over to correct a blatant and obvious boof.I'm still learning and I've got a long way to go to get to where I'd like to be in this Sport.
Corporal Reynolds was my first choice, he has a great expression on his face, IMHO. I got a ways into the process of oiling and realized I had not sealed the oil based primer, doeee.......................I tried to fix the mistake, but you can't get oil to stick to resin worth a hoot without that primer under it.Heck, I already jacked it up, so why not keep going, get the bugs worked out and see how much I've lost over the past nineteen months.
I might add that I acquired a set of number six reading glasses. They're dang near as thick as Coke bottles, but boy howdy, I can now see the fine point of my brush up close without having that Optivisor hanging off my head.Working into the eye sockets is much easier now, so I just might see some improvement in my weakest area.I'm optimistic.
Looking closer at the top and sides of the nose, temple areas, and under the eyes you will notice the small spec areas of missing primer. It looks horrendous up close, lesson learned, once again.But, over all, the tones are looking decent and the blending appears to be working ok.I think I'm getting warmed up.I still have brush strokes to clean up, but I see progress in a positive direction.Good practice run, wouldn'tcha say?
Ok, off to the shower you go buddy! Well, I toldja, it's only been nineteen months..........Ah, no worries, we're still having fun and that's what it's all about.If you've never used oven cleaner before it's an easy process.I don't wait long before I scrub off a coat of paint.Just make sure you try to get all the paint out of the crevasses and eye sockets, under the nose, etc.Try to get right back down to the resin, you don't want any paint build up to deal with later.
Ok, Cpl. Reynolds is all cleaned up and ready for a serious run at putting down some paint.
Let's see if I can bring the Cpl to life. Remember now, faces are my weak point.I intend to make them my strong point.Isn't that how practice works?Yep, here we go...............................
More updates to follow once the paint starts flyin again, and thanks for watchin. Cheers, Ski.
Boy, it's only been nineteen months since I've done any figure painting. Missing a bunker season of "sniffin paint and gluin them fingers together" can get to ya, if ya know what I mean.But, whether it's been six months or nineteen months I pretty much have to relearn my prior techniques every season.Call it a warm up before the workout.No worries, this will be a crash course of sorts.Remember, I have my trusty can of "Easy Off" oven cleaner just in case.
I always try to incorporate new techniques with each new set of figures. There's a heck of a lot of incredible talent out there to learn from, all having their own way of flingin paint, so I study their work and try to learn from "them".
Worth mentioning
I'll be starting back up where I left off at the end of my last bunker session. I've mentioned this before in my Sub Gun Deck SBS; During the Fall/Winter of 2018-19 I started working a new technique I picked up from a canvas oil painter. Strange, I know, but the concept is the same, just in an incredibly smaller scale.
The lessons I've learned from watching the oil painter "Daria Callie" seem to work well so far, at least for me. The only difference is the blending, or not blending, of the oils in the process.One key noticeable difference in how she paints on canvas and how most of us paint faces on resin.Most of us oilers use an acrylic color base before we apply the oils.Daria uses a grey base tone to keep the neutrality of the colors more readily visible during the painting process.I see her point.
Note:I do not use this technique for uniforms or gear, only on faces and flesh tones.This is my weakest link, so this is my focal point needing of much more improvement.
I've worked this technique several times now and it seems to work well for me, as long as I remember to use an acrylic primer for the flesh tones or seal the oil based primer before working the oils. Why?I use thinner quite often when I work the oils and the primer can disappear on you quick if you neglect to seal it.The oils will have nothing to cling to and off it goes with each stroke of the brush, yikes!I gotta remember that,..........
Palette and the line-up
So, here's the palette for the flesh tones with numerous blended tones to choose from. Taking notes from Daria's videos I start with the five basic colors; Cadmium Yellow, Cadmium Red, Burnt Umber, Ultra Marine Blue, and Titanium White.Yes, even on this little palette I used a small palette knife to mix the tones, works just fine.My palette is just a piece of thick poster board covered with wax paper.After each session I place the palette in a cheap plastic sealable container and into the freezer or refer it goes.This keeps the oils workable for an extended period of time.
As you can see I have "'Ol One Eye" in the background for moral support. He was my first attempt, trial run if you will, at using this technique. I was impressed with the results and also how quickly he began to take shape. Sweeeet!
The Sub Gun Deck Captain head was done using Daria's technique as well. So, if you can get past the visible brush marks, lol, you can see the flesh tones look acceptable for a serious first run.Still more work to be done, of course.
First up to bat are the faces, always. Painting the faces first gives me the confidence right up front.Large scale figures will show you all your mistakes and will shout at you quickly, lol.I'm not afraid to start over to correct a blatant and obvious boof.I'm still learning and I've got a long way to go to get to where I'd like to be in this Sport.
Corporal Reynolds was my first choice, he has a great expression on his face, IMHO. I got a ways into the process of oiling and realized I had not sealed the oil based primer, doeee.......................I tried to fix the mistake, but you can't get oil to stick to resin worth a hoot without that primer under it.Heck, I already jacked it up, so why not keep going, get the bugs worked out and see how much I've lost over the past nineteen months.
I might add that I acquired a set of number six reading glasses. They're dang near as thick as Coke bottles, but boy howdy, I can now see the fine point of my brush up close without having that Optivisor hanging off my head.Working into the eye sockets is much easier now, so I just might see some improvement in my weakest area.I'm optimistic.
Looking closer at the top and sides of the nose, temple areas, and under the eyes you will notice the small spec areas of missing primer. It looks horrendous up close, lesson learned, once again.But, over all, the tones are looking decent and the blending appears to be working ok.I think I'm getting warmed up.I still have brush strokes to clean up, but I see progress in a positive direction.Good practice run, wouldn'tcha say?
Ok, off to the shower you go buddy! Well, I toldja, it's only been nineteen months..........Ah, no worries, we're still having fun and that's what it's all about.If you've never used oven cleaner before it's an easy process.I don't wait long before I scrub off a coat of paint.Just make sure you try to get all the paint out of the crevasses and eye sockets, under the nose, etc.Try to get right back down to the resin, you don't want any paint build up to deal with later.
Ok, Cpl. Reynolds is all cleaned up and ready for a serious run at putting down some paint.
Let's see if I can bring the Cpl to life. Remember now, faces are my weak point.I intend to make them my strong point.Isn't that how practice works?Yep, here we go...............................
More updates to follow once the paint starts flyin again, and thanks for watchin. Cheers, Ski.
Chris Oldfield
A Fixture
Ace SBS so far, Steve - watching with interest!
1969
A Fixture
Following along Ski, doing a great job so far and I am learning a lot from this regarding painting.
Cheers
Steve
Cheers
Steve
Dolf
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Excellent SBS, thanks for this!
Following with great interest and trying to learn from your work
Funny that you start from your weaker point. It's also my weaker point (faces, skin in general, and eyes in particular...), but in my case, and because of that, it's always the last part I paint...
Obviously I do understand your point of starting exactly by your weaker point
Keep up the nice work you're doing
Cheers!
Following with great interest and trying to learn from your work
Funny that you start from your weaker point. It's also my weaker point (faces, skin in general, and eyes in particular...), but in my case, and because of that, it's always the last part I paint...
Obviously I do understand your point of starting exactly by your weaker point
Keep up the nice work you're doing
Cheers!
Steve Ski
A Fixture
Thanks for the encouragement Chris, I greatly appreciate the push onward, very motivating
Stevo, thanks Bro. Some day you're gonna have to part with that sculpting knowledge in an SBS. I see that frontier is wide open for me. I'm having fun with these guys, I just gotta lock into that grove and Ruck Over, Bby!
Thank you Dolf, I'm glad you're sticking around to watch. FYI, I've already given the corporal three "Oven Cleaner" baths today. So, just remember, if I can do it, so can you. I'm sure almost every "paint sniffer" here on Planet Figure would tell you the same thing, it's only a matter of practice,.....and practice,.........and more practice. We never stop learning.
Tanks Gents!
Stevo, thanks Bro. Some day you're gonna have to part with that sculpting knowledge in an SBS. I see that frontier is wide open for me. I'm having fun with these guys, I just gotta lock into that grove and Ruck Over, Bby!
Thank you Dolf, I'm glad you're sticking around to watch. FYI, I've already given the corporal three "Oven Cleaner" baths today. So, just remember, if I can do it, so can you. I'm sure almost every "paint sniffer" here on Planet Figure would tell you the same thing, it's only a matter of practice,.....and practice,.........and more practice. We never stop learning.
Tanks Gents!
Steve
Your moving on this .....and jer ping them clean at times as well ...lol
Really like the way you write as well ......fun to read but informative
Really good to have this SBS being done .....some lucky competition winner will be announced in on Nov 1 from entries in the Vignette & Diorama comp that Steve so wonderfully supported with this as a prize
Thanks for the info ref Daria's technique
Look forward to more on this
Happy benchtime
Nap
Your moving on this .....and jer ping them clean at times as well ...lol
Really like the way you write as well ......fun to read but informative
Really good to have this SBS being done .....some lucky competition winner will be announced in on Nov 1 from entries in the Vignette & Diorama comp that Steve so wonderfully supported with this as a prize
Thanks for the info ref Daria's technique
Look forward to more on this
Happy benchtime
Nap
