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Hi Steve,

"FYI, I've already given the corporal three "Oven Cleaner" baths today."

I guess that by that you mean you started painting him 3 times, and were no happy with the results, hence removed all the paint (3 times!) ?


"We never stop learning."

Fully agree with that ;)

The day we "stop learning"... well, we are dead... even if not physically dead... :LOL:


Looking forward to more on your progress on this amazing set of figures (y)


Cheers!
 
Thanks Dolf, and yes, it was painful, but necessary, lol. This happens ever time I get back into the swing of things.

But hey, no worries, today was a great day, some great paint was flingin all over the place, and we have some great results. I'll post more pics in series, but I've got to finish this face first.

Cheers, Ski.
 
Five Runs, we're on!

You'd think after three oven cleaner baths I'd get this dang technique figured out, but no, I had to go for a fourth bath, sheeeesh! I was gettin a little worried there for a bit,...........................Actually it's been an issue of my thinner working against my primer, not the oil painting technique.I have to clarify that.I'm having a lot of fun working Daria's methods.Be advised this technique is a bit more difficult working in smaller scales below 200mm.I ain't giving up yet, no by a long shot.

Trying to keep in step with the technique I'm learning I ran an acrylic undercoat of Tamiya XF-20 Medium Gray instead of relying on my Floquil primer to "hold until relieved". Sorry, been watchin "The Longest Day" and "A Bridge Too Far", HA!

My old method was a desert yellow or tan color acrylic undercoat, but I do like the gray undercoat much better, for obvious reasons, clarity of the tones applied.

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Now, since the eyes have always been my sticking point I attacked that issue first. I picked up some #6 reading glasses, as mentioned before, and they are working very well, and they're cheap.I could even get #7's, but we're good for now.Using a salmon and white acrylic mix I covered the eye socket and then placed a very thin dark toned line across top and bottom of the eye sockets.Then I placed a super dark brown mix for the eyeball outline, followed by a tinted blue iris, etc.After the eye ball was acceptable I ran a light red and salmon color across the base of the eyes for a slight flesh tone.In between each application I hit the face with an old hair dryer to completely dry the prior paint layer.Uh, don't forget the glint in the eye!

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Ok, the eyes have it, so we're off and running. It's still a bit of a dark flesh tone in these pics, but we'll take care of that right quick.As you may notice, I really didn't take a whole lot of "in progress" pics, but the blending process is just like any other oiler work, smooth transitions.

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Once I had my tonal base set it was just a matter of lightening up specific areas and highlighting others. I'll let this face sit for a few days while I work the neck and back of the head, etc.The other three heads will follow the same process until they all have had a good 3-5 days rest from the final oiling. Then I'll go back and detail any crows eyes, wrinkles, lips, or 5 'o clock shadows, etc..

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So far, I pretty happy with my results and it feels good to be back in the "saddle" again, if ya know what I mean. Hmmmmm, ..........hey, he's kinda got that "Mel Gibson", thing goin on,eh?Ok, maybe not that good, but there is a resemblance, wouldn'tcha say? lol.

There's still a long way to go, but we just got started on the meat and tatters of this build, so more to follow.


Tanks for watchin! Cheers, Ski.
 
Wow, wasn't expecting that, thanks Chris, honestly!

I consider myself to be about in the middle of the herd here, but I'm always grabbing at them tails justa swingin up front within reach, to pull myself a bit further up in the pack, HA! There's an incredible amount of talent right here, on this site. It's absurd, the quality of work, most impressive! But boy howdy, the beauty of it all, lol. We wouldn't be here if we didn't appreciate this true art in it's multiple forms of "paint sniffin", would we?

It's only a matter of practice, right? Thanks Chris. Cheers, Ski.

P.S. So, do ya think I got this "Mel Gibson" thing goin or what? Don't answer that, lol.
 
Hi Steve!

Great progress there! And I'm loving the look of this Corporal Reynolds! (y)

Not sure he resembles Mel Gibson tho :LOL:

So, if I get it right, you do use oils for most of the figure, but acrylics for... the eyes alone? Any particular reason for that? (Just as a side note, I've just started painting my 1/16 Rommel eyes last night, but as for the rest of the figures, I only use oils, on top of a lacquer-based primer, Mr Surfacer 1000, light grey, and a enamel basecoat, the choice of color depending on the final oil color I'll use on each part of the whole figure, that I apply everywhere, face, eyes, etc, included. Maybe there's a good reason for you to use acrylics for those tiny little small eyes on a 1/16 figure... Is it easier to apply/paint with acrylics, in these small parts as the eyes? Thanks in advance for any advice on this)


"Then I'll go back and detail any crows eyes, wrinkles, lips, or 5 'o clock shadows, etc.."


That is one of those million Dollars questions that I never dared to ask publicly, especially in a Forum full of artists... But then again, I never attended a Fine Arts school...and I'm just learning at my ... not young age, things that I never imagined I would one day even try to learn... Painting using oils being just one of them...

Anyway, as you mention it here, I cannot but ask what that is... that "5 o'clock shadows", that I've seen mentioned a few times before?... :shy: And how to achieve it in such a small size figure (1/16 is a good scale that I like to work with, but obviously not as large as a 1/0, 1/9, 1/6... or even a 1/1 canvas painting for instance... ) .


Keep up the great work, and posting more well written, educative and entertaining posts (I'm learning and having fun at the same time with this SBS, thanks for that! (y) ), along with more pics of this set of very nice figures as you progress (y)


Thanks!

Cheers!

EDIT:

Guess I should have done some online research before asking the question about the "5 o'clock shadows"... :p
I think I got the meaning now... ;)
 
Can't see the resemblance to Mel Gibson for myself either Steve, but it's still a masterpiece.

As a personal preference, I'd rather see the complete faces you've painted than the partial ones - the one with the single eye & cheek painted looks scary, because it reminded me of those tin facial prosthetics they gave to the disfigured in WW1. I was watching a YouTube video about those the other day, & whilst they were extremely well-made & exquisitely painted, the thought of what those poor men had to go through to need them in the first place is truly shocking. Lest we forget.
 
Hi Steve

Very nicely done , the eyes really look good as does the fleshwork so far

I like to see the stages in painting the face always good to see how others aporoach I

I am sure you would look as macho as Mel in a kilt ....."Cry Kolinsky" .lol

Great SBS as well , like Dolf said well written and it's fun to read

Enjoy the meat 'n tatters

Happy benchtime

Nap
 
Hey Dolf, the only stupid question is the one you didn't ask, so remember that. You ask a lot of good questions, so don't be shy, I'm still learning too, Brother. ;)

The 5'o clock shadow would be the beard growth by days end or over a few days of combat. There won't be much of one on this figure, the Brits were pretty high and tight, even in combat, or so I've understood. No worries, someone will correct me on that if I'm wrong, HA!

Acrylics on the eyes. It's a matter of drying time and working several colors without creating a mess in such a small space. I've done the oil route several times, but I find in 1/16th acrylics work best for me on the eyes. There is a caveat to this, the acrylics usually dry on my 0000 brush real fast and it can be just as frustrating.

Mel Gison? there's a "slight" resemblance, no? Also, I'll be adding a bit of reddish tones for the cheek, almost forgot, lol.

Cheers, Ski.
 
Ya Chris, the 'ol One Eye is a bit spooky, but he stays in the model bunker, not on my night stand, HA! I recon someday I'll finish him, but he's a great head to work out paint issues.
 
Hey Nap, my good Irish name forbids me from wearing a kilt, HA! But thanks anyway, Ma Brotha, lol.

The eyes are still jackin with me, personally, but I'm going to let this one ride hoping the other three will be in much better shape. It's called anal retentiveness, I recon. I'm having fun with this SBS, good to see yall are enjoying it.

Tanks Buddy!
 
Hi Steve,

Yes, I believe you're right about asking questions. Otherwise what are these experts Forums for?... :joyful:

Thanks for the reply regarding the "5 o'clock shadow". Right after posting the question I typed it on DuckDuckGo and got that same explanation. Should have done it before I guess. Anyway, now I know ;)

Thanks a lot for explaining why you use acrylics to paint the eyes! I don't have any acrylics (or rather, right now I have 4 colors, no brand, water soluble, that came with one of the airbrush, white, yellow, blue and black; so far only used a bit of red for practicing with the aibrush), but after reading your reasons I might get some! It makes totally sense!
Any specific colors (just for the eyes) you'd recommend? White and red perhaps (for the "white of the eyes"/"tunica conjunctiva"), black for the pupil, then brown, and/or blue, ans/or green, for the iris?
As for the eyeball outline (I simply am unable to do that in a 1/16 figure! Not even using the OptiVisor and with a 10/0 brush! At my age the damn hands no longer have the firmness/stability as I had some decades ago... :( Damn, we should never get old... :rolleyes: ) and the base of the eyes... dark brown for the 1st and light red for the 2nd? And a slightly darker tone for the upper part of the eyes ("eye lid"?) ?

Thanks again, I'm learning a lot with your SBS! (y)

Mel Gibson?... Sorry, can't still find the resemblance :p


Cheers!
 
Dolf, lol, ok, let's just say if you can't see Mel Gibson, ....................it's your eyes! Bahahaa, just kiddin;) I had a co-worker tell me long ago, "Getting old ain't for wimps!" I wish he never said that, ouch!

The acrylic colors I used are listed in the post for the eyes. Get a small set of colors, you can always mix em and you won't have to spend a lot of $$.

My right eye does a shuffle from time to time, when I'm tired, lack of sleep, etc. Not nystagmus, that is completely different. The unfortunate issue is it seems to happen right about the time I'm ready to lay a bit of acrylics, lol. The acrylic usually dries before I get a chance to place it and then I have to start all over again, HA! So, I move quickly with the acrylics, then relax and enjoy the oils. I recon I'll always be an oiler, love em too much.

So, if 1/16th is a bit small for you get ahold of a few 1/10th busts, they are the perfect size to improve the face work, etc. And of course, have fun "sniffin that paint!"
 
Hi again Steve,

"let's just say if you can't see Mel Gibson, ....................it's your eyes! Bahahaa, just kiddin;)"

Rotfl... :ROFLMAO: Good one!... :hilarious:


"I had a co-worker tell me long ago, "Getting old ain't for wimps!" "

Sadly it's for us all... Almost 65, but it's mainly the body, and of course the ID card... Heart and brain, and spirit, are (or at least feel) much younger, but unfortunately that doesn't really help that much for this modeling & painting hobby... Well, we do what we can, the best way we can... ;)

Thanks for the tip on the acrylic colors for the eyes (y)

"My right eye does a shuffle from time to time, when I'm tired, lack of sleep, etc."

I think that tends to happen to most/many people under the same circumstances, tired, lack of sleep. It also happens to me occasionally, but as it is rather rare I'm not sure which eye it is that shuffles... :cool:


"The unfortunate issue is it seems to happen right about the time I'm ready to lay a bit of acrylics, lol."

That is unfortunate indeed, that it happens right when you need both eyes wide open :wideyed:

Maybe it's from the stress/tension, exactly because of the concentration you put on your eyes when painting... eyes...


"So, if 1/16th is a bit small for you get ahold of a few 1/10th busts, they are the perfect size to improve the face work, etc."

I guess that is the main reason why I "converted" to mainly painting 1/10, 1/9... busts :)

But even with these, the damn hands lack of firmness won't help... :oops:


Anyway, as you say, the important thing is to have fun with this (or any other) hobby (or anything else in life for that matter) (y)
As a matter fact, I've just got a clarification on the Rules for one of the boardgames I'm playing through Internet and using a program for that ("Circle of Fire - The Siege of Cholm, 1942") and I'm now resuming the game that was on stand-by for a couple of days... Having fun :p



Cheers!
 
Let er rip Brother, taking a break from the brush "is" allowed, lol. I have a weakness for BF4, but tell no one, plz!

More to follow Dolf, got some uniform undercoat done today while the first face dries, off we go........................................ It's actually a day off, so to speak.

Cheers, Ski.
 
Hi Steve,

"taking a break from the brush "is" allowed, lol."

It doesn't take long to play a Turn (or an Impulse, as it's the case for my favorite type of boardgames, called "Area-Impulse" games) on this game, 5 to 10 minutes and it's done and shared with my opponent ;)

These are boardgames (not computer games), that exist on physical format (with maps, playing pieces, units and markers, and... Rules... that one can play with a human opponent, solitaire, or more players, as there are 1 player, 2 players games, and also multiplayer games, either depicting actual wars/battles from the past, hence Historical, or not; more recently a couple of different genres were created, but I confess I'm no big fan, I usually prefer WWII related Historical battles/campaigns), but for which (mostly for lack of easy finding opponents), some software was created that allow to play them through the Internet.
Very practical, this way one can play with players from all around the world, without leaving his living room :happy:

Before this kind of software was created (before Internet), we used to PBM (Play By Mail!) and I did it a lot in the old days. But compared to the much faster and much easier way that the Internet and this software provides, those were very time consuming times!
Imagine writing on paper all your Turn, putting the whole thing on envelopes, and posting it to... wherever your opponent was located!
Then wait for the reply from your opponent, then restart... Using different means for rolling the dice...
Those were also fun days, but as I say, extremely time-consuming!

Then with Internet, during the mid-90's, we started PBeM (Playing By eMail), which managed to make it much faster, but we still had to type the whole Turn on the emails...

Nowadays, with this software we use, we have the same maps as those on paper that come with the games (some guys are good at doing that!), all the playing pieces, units, markers, everything we have on the physical game!
And we even have a die/dice roll system! So it's one thousand times faster and easier than before!
With Dropbox for instance we don't even have to send our Turn by mail, we just share it with the opponent by saving the Turn on the Dropbox Folder...

In 5 minutes, what in the old days would take hours, even days, is now easily done!

I confess I'm no fan of most technological innovations, but it's on these small things that I welcome these innovations ;)


"I have a weakness for BF4"

Didn't know what it is, so did some research online.
Guess you're talking about Battlefield 4, right?
A bit too modern/contemporary warfare for my personal taste :p

I played many computer games in the past/decades ago (a few as recently as some 5 years ago, but my favorite ones, especially the last ones I played, were RTS games, including a few I used to play with other players online, such as "Starcraft" in the mid-late 90's, for instance, the last one on this genre I used to play was "Company of Heroes", but have played them all... :D ), including of course some FPS, solo and/or multiplayer online (Medal of Honor was maybe the last one of this type I remember playing, many nights shooting at other players online... lol... Then the next ones were too demanding in terms of hardware, so the days of those FPS were over...) . Before that played almost all those on this genre that existed on the market, from the old Doom, to Duke Nukem, to Half-Life... you name it...

Boardgaming for me started in the mid 80's, then (as with other hobbies, this one, modeling, included, there were pauses, sometimes decades before I returned to a particular hobby, and often times new hobbies came up during those long breaks... Funny but I was never able to not have some hobby, or different hobbies at the same time, all my life!) by the late 90's I stopped playing them, and only on occasion would play one or two.

But about the same time I restarted modeling (some 2 years ago) I also restarted this other hobby, boardgaming. I do have a nice collection of these games, but nowadays I'm only playing some of the Area-Impulse games I have (and a few new ones I acquired more recently), it's definitely my favorite genre of boardgames (instead of the more traditional hex-based maps, on these, the maps are divided into Areas, which IMO depicts a battle in a more realistic way, especially in a small scale, a town - Stalingrad for instance! - or part of a region, or part of a country... Obviously it's not practical for grand strategy games, depicting for instance the whole Eastern Front war, or even the entire WWII war all Fronts included... for this scale most of the time the older/more traditional hex-based maps work better) .

Well... long post... sorry buddy... :sorry:

Anyway, not only did I play my Impulse on my game (5 minutes I'd say), but I also continued my Rommel tonight (a couple of hours or more) :joyful:


Keep up the great SBS, looking to the following steps and pics (y)


Cheers!
 
Roger that Dolf ;)

Back from break, couldn't sleep, so I working the second head. Can't say I'm totally thrilled with it, but onward and forward. I'll post pics after the final head is complete, gotta keep the momentum going for now.

Cheers, Ski.
 
Bren Gunner

Ok, so he getting closer, the Bren gunner, but after a few hours I'm calling him good to go till the final touch ups. I do need to tend to his hair, though."Oh no,........not the hair!", from the movie "Four Feathers", remember anyone? Ok, never mind............

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I went ahead and continued on with flesh tones for the Cpl and the Bren gunner to close them out for right now. The other two will be worked right away. I'm in that face painting mode, so they all get done now, while I have the momentum going, so to speak. Tones a slightly different, but so are yours and mine, right?

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I'm not particularly satisfied with the Bren gunner's face, but he's going along for the ride, unless I get the gumption to work him a bit more. He's messin with my head, no pun intended. HA! This happens at times, yall know what I'm trying to say here, it happens to everyone from time to time, if we've been "sniffin paint and gluin our fingers together" for any length of time. His side profile is ok, but his facial features are still requiring attention.

Ok, that's it for the short update, I'll post more as I go along and thanks for watchin. Feel free to add constructive criticism, I'm all ears.


Cheers, Ski.
 
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