They'll be like lions then, as Bill's 75mm.
Carl.
Carl.
WIP Critique Bill Sykes.
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billyturnip
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Mantis Miniatures do some nice looking rats but at 1/35 might be going in the other direction.
http://www.mantisminiatures.pl/EN/11,0,Accesories.html
Roger.
http://www.mantisminiatures.pl/EN/11,0,Accesories.html
Roger.
Yes, Ken. This is the first painted Bill that I have saw.
Still haven't any time to paint mine!
Good work, Carl.
I'm thinking to make some floral pattern in the vest. The rest as Dickens description.
DEL
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Colin_Fraser
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That didn't take long Carl - off to a flying start! I will be watching this. I would love to buy one, but sadly I am mired in my historicals rut. But nothing has ever tempted me to leave it more than this piece.
Colin
Colin
You know, rats were part of the bussines:
"The prohibition on animal fightings of 1835 didn't include rat baiting or ratting. So ratting increased popularity as a gambling sport and rat pits appeared everywhere. At one time London counted about 70 rat pits.
Wentworth Day, a devotee of the rat baiting game wrote in the 19th century:
"This was a rather dirty, small place, in the middle of the Cambridge Circus, London. You went down a rotten wooden stair and entered a large, underground cellar, which was created by combining the cellars of two houses. The cellar was full of smoke, stench of rats, dogs and dirty human beings as well. The stale smell of flat beer was almost overpowering. Gas lights illuminated the centre of the cellar, a ring enclosed by wood barriers, similar to a small Roman circus arena and wooden bleachers, arranged one over the other, rose stepwise above it nearly to the ceiling. This was the pit for dog fights, cockfights and rat killing. A hundred rats were put in it, large wagers went back and forth on whose dog could kill the most rats within a minute. The dogs worked in exemplary fashion, a grip, a toss and it was all over for the rat. With especially skilful dogs, two dead rats flew through the air at the same time..."
Generally, small dogs were considered better for the game...Manchester Terrier, Old english White, fox terrier but also small Bull and Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers and Bull Terriers were used.
The winner was the dog who could kill the most rats as quick as possible. Don't underestimate rats, when threatened, they fight. A dog with just one eye, caused by rats was not exceptional. the rats for the fight were delivered by a so-called 'rat catcher'. Around 1850, a famous rat catcher was Jack Black...The rats were his living but also caused almost his death on several occasions. Not surprisingly, he also was a succesfull dogbreeder of Black and Tan Terriers and his strain of rat fighting dogs were famous around London.
Some results out of Billy's career:
1822 - 100 rats in 7 minutes and 17 seconds
1822 - 100 rats in 6 minutes and 25 seconds
1823 - 100 rats in 5 minutes and 30 seconds
1823 - 120 rats in 8 minutes and 20 seconds
April 22, 1823, Billy set a world record by killing 100 rats in only 5 minutes and 30 seconds. Just in 1862 a new record was set by a small Bull and terrier named Jacko (ca 6,5 kg), owned by Jemmy Shaw, a breeder of Bull Terriers, Bulldogs and toy terriers. Jacko killed 100 rats in 5 minutes and 28 seconds..only 2 seconds faster than Billy.
Later that year he killed 60 rats in 2 minutes and 42 seconds (2,7 seconds per rat while the old record was 3,3 seconds per rat)
The last known public rat baiting event was in Leicester, East Midlands in 1912."
"The prohibition on animal fightings of 1835 didn't include rat baiting or ratting. So ratting increased popularity as a gambling sport and rat pits appeared everywhere. At one time London counted about 70 rat pits.
Wentworth Day, a devotee of the rat baiting game wrote in the 19th century:
"This was a rather dirty, small place, in the middle of the Cambridge Circus, London. You went down a rotten wooden stair and entered a large, underground cellar, which was created by combining the cellars of two houses. The cellar was full of smoke, stench of rats, dogs and dirty human beings as well. The stale smell of flat beer was almost overpowering. Gas lights illuminated the centre of the cellar, a ring enclosed by wood barriers, similar to a small Roman circus arena and wooden bleachers, arranged one over the other, rose stepwise above it nearly to the ceiling. This was the pit for dog fights, cockfights and rat killing. A hundred rats were put in it, large wagers went back and forth on whose dog could kill the most rats within a minute. The dogs worked in exemplary fashion, a grip, a toss and it was all over for the rat. With especially skilful dogs, two dead rats flew through the air at the same time..."
Generally, small dogs were considered better for the game...Manchester Terrier, Old english White, fox terrier but also small Bull and Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers and Bull Terriers were used.
The winner was the dog who could kill the most rats as quick as possible. Don't underestimate rats, when threatened, they fight. A dog with just one eye, caused by rats was not exceptional. the rats for the fight were delivered by a so-called 'rat catcher'. Around 1850, a famous rat catcher was Jack Black...The rats were his living but also caused almost his death on several occasions. Not surprisingly, he also was a succesfull dogbreeder of Black and Tan Terriers and his strain of rat fighting dogs were famous around London.
Billy killing 100 rats at the Westminster Pit, 1823
The most famous rat fighting dog was a Bull and Terrier named Billy (weight, ca 12 kg), owned by Charles Dew and bred by James Yardington...a quality dog with a quality pedigree.Some results out of Billy's career:
1822 - 100 rats in 7 minutes and 17 seconds
1822 - 100 rats in 6 minutes and 25 seconds
1823 - 100 rats in 5 minutes and 30 seconds
1823 - 120 rats in 8 minutes and 20 seconds
April 22, 1823, Billy set a world record by killing 100 rats in only 5 minutes and 30 seconds. Just in 1862 a new record was set by a small Bull and terrier named Jacko (ca 6,5 kg), owned by Jemmy Shaw, a breeder of Bull Terriers, Bulldogs and toy terriers. Jacko killed 100 rats in 5 minutes and 28 seconds..only 2 seconds faster than Billy.
Later that year he killed 60 rats in 2 minutes and 42 seconds (2,7 seconds per rat while the old record was 3,3 seconds per rat)
The last known public rat baiting event was in Leicester, East Midlands in 1912."
Gary D
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Great start Carl! Where can I get one of these and who's the manufacturer?
Thanks for the pics
Gary
Thanks for the pics
Gary
Richie
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Hi Carl,
One word "bullseye"
cheers
Richie
One word "bullseye"
cheers
Richie
Whut ?Hi Carl,
One word "bullseye"
cheers
Richie
Richie
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Hi Steve,
To expand on your Whut? - Besides being a play on words with reference to the dog of Bill Sykes, I have highlighted the intended use from the defiintion.
cheers
Richie
Definition of bullseye
noun
To expand on your Whut? - Besides being a play on words with reference to the dog of Bill Sykes, I have highlighted the intended use from the defiintion.
cheers
Richie
Definition of bullseye
noun
- 1the centre of the target in sports such as archery, shooting, and darts.
- a shot that hits the bullseye in sports such as archery, shooting, and darts.
- used to refer to something that achieves exactly the intended effect:the silence told him he’d scored a bullseye
- 2a large, hard round peppermint sweet.
- 3 dated a thick disc of glass forming a small window in a ship or the glass of a lamp: [as modifier]:a bullseye lantern
- a thick knob of glass at the centre of a blown glass sheet.
billyturnip
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I'll have a 1/4 of bulls eyes please.
Richie I'll see your bulls eye and raise you Bullseye is a fictional character, a supervillain in the Marvel Comics universe. A psychopathic assassin, Bullseye uses the opportunities afforded by his line of work to exercise his homicidal tendencies and to work out his own personal vendetta against Daredevil.
megroot
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Very good start Carl
Marc
Marc
T-34/85
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Great start Carl. I can't wait to start mine. I like the rat idea. I have some Plus Model rats that I may use and a street corner ruin that might work, Tom
Thanks again for looking in.
Carl.
Carl.
tonydawe
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Great start Carl. Logve the facial scar and the menacing eyes.
Ron Tamburrini
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When did you begin this one Carl I seem to have missed the starting gun but then again that's not new for me
This one looks good Carl will it be on time for SW ,no doubt you will have a little scenery with it too.
Ron
but then again that's not new for meThis one looks good Carl will it be on time for SW ,no doubt you will have a little scenery with it too.
Ron
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