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I agreed with you 100% that soccer has become one of the most sports practiced by kids, its affordable and no need much equipment, this is good…

But it is impossible for Americans and Canadians to understanding what Football-soccer and the world cup represents for many countries. For you Soccer is just a game with 20 players running after a ball trying to score a goal …. But for us and most of the other Countries, it is not a Monday night GAME with chicken wings and beer….
Even if I try to explain, you will never be able to understand….

Best regards
 
Mike S.

what is wrong with my post?

I think Mike is commenting on your generalization that we North Americans cannot understand football. Generalized and sweeping comments are always risky. Also the comment that we wouldn't understand even if you explained comes across in English as if we are are not smart enough to comprehend. I am sure that was not your intent.

Also, if you think Canadians don't live and die with their teams, I invite you to visit a Toronto at World Cup time. I stay away as I can't take the celebrations and wakes!

Colin
 
I reckon it's going to be 7-1 to Germany.:whistle:
:ROFLMAO:..... I guess that`s what soccer is all about and can`t be understood - in fact I did not get it by myself when I had to deal on duty with violent hooligans and all that crap - there were moments when I felt much more ready for people that would take it as a monday night game with chicken wings and beer....
Cheers, Martin
 
But it is impossible for Americans and Canadians to understanding what Football-soccer and the world cup represents for many countries. For you Soccer is just a game with 20 players running after a ball trying to score a goal …. But for us and most of the other Countries, it is not a Monday night GAME with chicken wings and beer….
Even if I try to explain, you will never be able to understand….

Best regards

I do understand that no baseball or football player ever bit an umpire or referee-kicking dirt on the umpire's shoes and cussing him out are acceptable, though--and we've never entered into a shooting war over losing a game. :D

Prost!
Brad
 
I think Mike is commenting on your generalization that we North Americans cannot understand football. Generalized and sweeping comments are always risky. Also the comment that we wouldn't understand even if you explained comes across in English as if we are are not smart enough to comprehend. I am sure that was not your intent.

Also, if you think Canadians don't live and die with their teams, I invite you to visit a Toronto at World Cup time. I stay away as I can't take the celebrations and wakes!

Colin


Ciau Colin,
The meaning of my ‘’understanding’’ is not related to the technical part of the game, not the rules, the objective, the tactical positioning, the scoring etc….

I had no intentions to diminished American or Canadians ability to understand sports ,.I have been living here for more than 20 winters (Quebec side), saw many Super bowls, Stanley Cups, NBA finals, World Series etc…this is my 6th World Cup in Canada and I can guarantee that I know what I am talking about…


Concerning Toronto, there are no Canadians in Toronto anymore….
 
:ROFLMAO:..... I guess that`s what soccer is all about and can`t be understood - in fact I did not get it by myself when I had to deal on duty with violent hooligans and all that crap - there were moments when I felt much more ready for people that would take it as a monday night game with chicken wings and beer....
Cheers, Martin



Is nothing to do with violence…
 
Is nothing to do with violence…

to my experience it starts with a hysterical crowd that looks upon a lost match as the end of the world and ends with violence - this happens more likely if you don`t see it as a ("Monday night"-) game. But maybe I am not able to understand what soccer really means - a problem that came with my professional duties over the years. So don´t take it as a personal offence.
Cheers, Martin
 
Sorry Debrito...didn't know you were over here. Your Toronto comment mystifies me? But no need to clarify.

Cheers

Colin


No sorry needed, what I tried to say is that, Every time I visit Downtown Toronto, I don’t see many Canadians living there, working maybe…..
 
to my experience it starts with a hysterical crowd that looks upon a lost match as the end of the world and ends with violence - this happens more likely if you don`t see it as a ("Monday night"-) game. But maybe I am not able to understand what soccer really means - a problem that came with my professional duties over the years. So don´t take it as a personal offence.
Cheers, Martin


Unfortunately violence is a huge concerning on this game, is a shame…
We can drag this forever and status quo will remaining, so I hope you don’t take my post as any kind of offence, because wasn't my goal.
I take the opportunity to wish you and your country good luck for Sunday

Ciau
 
My God.. Today Luis Suarez has signed with us (Barça)(n) :facepalm: ..Talking about violence, What do you think about this kind of behavior?..I'm feeling quite ashamed right now
 
No sorry needed, what I tried to say is that, Every time I visit Downtown Toronto, I don’t see many Canadians living there, working maybe…..

I figure they are all Canadians except for the odd guy getting off a bus decked out in cameras. :)
 
I remember in the 1970's catching a bus into Burnley (Lancashire, UK) which passed Turf Moor (Burnley's stadium) just before kick off time. The visitors were Leeds United, now that WAS open war!

Geoff
 
I remember in the 1970's catching a bus into Burnley (Lancashire, UK) which passed Turf Moor (Burnley's stadium) just before kick off time. The visitors were Leeds United, now that WAS open war!

Geoff
Lol, I probably wasn't born then, just can imagine the football scene in those times after having seen "The damned United" movie
 
Mike S.

what is wrong with my post?

I think Mike is commenting on your generalization that we North Americans cannot understand football. Generalized and sweeping comments are always risky. Also the comment that we wouldn't understand even if you explained comes across in English as if we are are not smart enough to comprehend. I am sure that was not your intent.

Also, if you think Canadians don't live and die with their teams, I invite you to visit a Toronto at World Cup time. I stay away as I can't take the celebrations and wakes!

Colin

Colin hit the nail on the head. While I suspected that you meant no malice by your choice of words, it had to be brought to your attention to avoid offending needlessly.
 
As I work in three continents, I can see many sides of a prism :)


Mankind is different all around. In US the soccer game is seen like this:

First: My fellow US colleages don't understand a game where the final result can be 0-0. As a matter of fact this is an excellent point of view: spending 90 minutes passing the ball, then more 30 and nothing happens ... and finally some deadly shots put an end to a boring game.

Second: They also don't understand a game where outside the penalty area, fragile players don't have a place to be. However inside the penalty area, the slightest touch result in an artistic fall similar to pool diving.

Third: They also don't understand a game that is live broadcast at the stadium, the referee commits a mistake, he sees countless times his mistake in gigantic screens, the crowd whispers loudly ... and he keeps his mistake on.

Fourth: They also don't understand a game where a coach brings 21 players ... but only 3 are replaced ... and permanently.

Fifth: Finally they don't understand a game where there is no time to strike or progressive lines to cover: A team can be all the time in his middle field passing the ball and everything is ok :)


But youngs, specially latin youngsters have a different point of view: A ball and an abandoned street are all kids need. The annoying part of the game, I showed above, is adult stuff: You see american latin kids playing soccer all around, the same way you see black kids dominating basketball in every courtyard you can find. I remember being in a Hotel in L.A. and there was a public courtyard about a mile away: By 7:30 AM there were already kids practicing to become the next LeBron James.


Regarding US sports in Europe - it's like this: Mankind is different - American sports are high on adrenaline and spectacular ... however we Europeans prefer calmer things. As weird as it can be, we prefer to see a hour and half race in a corner, where the cars pass only each minute and a half, rather than an oval with a roaring crowd of cars being smashed all around for about four hours.

We are more bucolic :) that is the primary difference. Once I saw a US NBA game, and it looks like an European game at twice the speed. Americans feel the opposite: FIBA games are NBA at slow speed :)
 

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