New Ronin in 90 mm

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pack88

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hy guys,

i show you the new figure sculpted by Andrea Jula For Pegaso.

it's one ronin in 90mm,

yesterday i have start the painting, and i hope i finish for the last days of july
 

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Hi Diego a new great work from Andrea Jula , I hope another great work from you.
Regards Jose Luis
 
Diego,
Andrea Jula did a great job on this sculpting. Excellent.
But i wouldn't call it a Ronin.
What i have read (when i was painting a Ronin) that Ronin's where a masterless samurai during the feudal period (1185–1868) of Japan. A samurai became masterless from the ruin or fall of his master, or after the loss of his master's favor or privilege.
According to the Bushido Shoshinshu (the Code of the Samurai), a ronin was supposed to commit oibara seppuku (also "hara kiri" – ritual suicide) upon the loss of his master.
One who chose to not honor the code was "on his own" and was meant to suffer great shame. The undesirability of ronin status was mainly a discrimination imposed by other samurai and by the daimyo (the feudal lords).

When i see all the clothing and weapons he is wearing i couldn't speak about a masterless samurai. This is a rich samurai.

marc
 
Hi Diego,
wonderful sculpted, look forward to seeing your work. It´s my favourite period and will buy it for my collection...;) :D
 
Ronin not a samurai??

First off thank you Diego for posting this one. I can hardly wait to see your masterful strokes on this one. Pegaso has made another classic here.

Marc, I do not understand your comment. If a Ronin was originally a samurai and then became masterless but did not committ suicide - he would still have access to all his samurai armour and swords etc. Disgraced yes but not necessarily without armour and weapons??

Ciao
Franco
 
Marc, I do not understand your comment. If a Ronin was originally a samurai and then became masterless but did not committ suicide - he would still have access to all his samurai armour and swords etc. Disgraced yes but not necessarily without armour and weapons??

Ciao
Franco

Because when a Samurai became a Ronin he has no more then his underwear. The armour and wapens belong to his master.
He became a wanderer, and was the undersite of the society. With other words, usual he has no more then his underwear.
And he has access to nothing.....

Marc
 
Because when a Samurai became a Ronin he has no more then his underwear.

Marc

Marc's comment may sound outrageous but it's closer to the truth than most may think. :cool:

Bushi (warriors) and samurai (retainers) relied on their master for food, lodging and clothing.

At the demise of their employer – be it by disgrace, death, or bankruptcy – they were deprived of their sole source of income and thus found themselves unemployed and without a social status.

Most owned nothing but the clothes (and underwear :D) they're wearing and their weapons. Some were so desperate that they ended up selling their swords and replacing them by bamboo makeshifts.

These were desperate men despised (and feared) by a highly and rigidly-structured society.

HTH
Quang
 
If a Ronin was originally a samurai and then became masterless but did not committ suicide - he would still have access to all his samurai armour and swords etc. Disgraced yes but not necessarily without armour and weapons??

Franco

Indeed.

You can also sculpt a guy in an Armani suit and a German sport car and call him a 'would-be homeless'.:cool:

Q
 
Marc's comment may sound outrageous but it's closer to the truth than most may think. :cool:

Bushi (warriors) and samurai (retainers) relied on their master for food, lodging and clothing.

At the demise of their employer – be it by disgrace, death, or bankruptcy – they were deprived of their sole source of income and thus found themselves unemployed and without a social status.

Most owned nothing but the clothes (and underwear :D) they're wearing and their weapons. Some were so desperate that they ended up selling their swords and replacing them by bamboo makeshifts.

These were desperate men despised (and feared) by a highly and rigidly-structured society.

HTH
Quang

based on how much you write is not impossible to see a ronin that it still possesses part of its crews or a ronin that has an old armor

the painting of the piece it represents an old and ruined armor, and poor wearing whit out draving ort ornaments
 
Diego,

In most instances, armour and weapons were owned by the 'master' and stored in armoury when not in use.

Even in the case where they belonged to the 'samurai', they were the first items (at least the armour) to be disposed by the owner as they were the most valuable (and worthy of trade) of his assets.

Furthermore, when he lost his master, the ronin lost his lodging as well as his livelihood. He became a vagabond drifting from town to town in search of a job (ronin means 'floatsam', debris floating on the river of life :rolleyes:).

He'd be travelling light. The armour would be an unnecessary burden and would only served to attract bandits (or other ronin) of all kinds.

Kindly note that I'm NOT discussing the Pegaso figure. I'm only discussing about the status and appearance of the ronin as he has been represented in Japanese literature and cinema.

HTH
Quang
 
...if you discuss on the Pegaso figure for me is not a problem!!!!!
to the contrary, you can have any kind of opinion of pegaso products whit out any problem.


it would appeal to however to understand to me, beyond the figure in issue, for my personal interest

if:

it is possible that a ronin it had those armour and weapons?

, or it is completely impossible that it could have those armor and scerw.

without giving for absolute truth the literature and the Japanese cinema,

but being based on effective historical searches

if is reasonably possible or not.

i ask this; becaus i dont know.....
 
it is possible that a ronin it had those armour and weapons?

Of course, a ronin can put on a full set of armour and remain a ronin. Just as he can disguise himself as a teahouse waitress ;) or a wandering priest like in some popular novels.

I'm NOT an expert on ronin or samurai (or anything else) but I happen to be interested in Japanese culture and history.

What I said about the ronin I learned from Japanese books and films. This is how the Japanese people represent the ronin in their culture. You can use worse reference than that.

Quang
 

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