Completed Patyomkin gets paint!
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Pierre the bust is even more gorgeous in green.Sergey,one more outstanding masterclass in uniformology,I can only fathom how many hundreds of hours of studying and observing such expertise requires.Martin,excellent information indeed.
Such conversations can go on for hours without end and provided that a level of courtesy is maintained,are highly educational.I wish I had such well informed people helping me with my historical research which to me remains one of the most charming and captivating aspects of our hobby.
Oda.
Such conversations can go on for hours without end and provided that a level of courtesy is maintained,are highly educational.I wish I had such well informed people helping me with my historical research which to me remains one of the most charming and captivating aspects of our hobby.
Oda.
Thank you Oda.
While the green is very slowly drying, I will have to find something to paint, Grigori's head perhaps? I'll find something.
Sergey,
The ribbon of the Apostle Andrey The First-called Order was highlighted with mixing silver and white oil paint in the blue paint and in daylight it gives a nice silky aspect, close to the real life ribbons I have seen on the chests of general officers.
But on photo it doesn't show very well. But painting moiré, знаю свои возможности и свой предел!
Cheers,
Pierre
While the green is very slowly drying, I will have to find something to paint, Grigori's head perhaps? I'll find something.
Sergey,
The ribbon of the Apostle Andrey The First-called Order was highlighted with mixing silver and white oil paint in the blue paint and in daylight it gives a nice silky aspect, close to the real life ribbons I have seen on the chests of general officers.
But on photo it doesn't show very well. But painting moiré, знаю свои возможности и свой предел!
Cheers,
Pierre
Steve Ski
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Nice, the face is already looking great, Pierre!
Excellent history lesson, Sergey. It's obvious to me you are well versed on this subject and the sharing of that knowledge is what makes PF a great site. Not only do we see incredible work, but we often get the opportunity to learn the "back-story" behind it. Excellent.
Excellent history lesson, Sergey. It's obvious to me you are well versed on this subject and the sharing of that knowledge is what makes PF a great site. Not only do we see incredible work, but we often get the opportunity to learn the "back-story" behind it. Excellent.
Jaybo
A Fixture
I always follow Sergey's and Martin's posts with interest. I agree with Sergey about the issue of the fugitive dyes used in the 18th & 19th centuries. They did not have the modern permanent dyes we take for granted. I remember talking to the late great Col. John Elting (author of 'Swords Around a Throne') about this very issue. He told me that the French would dye a uniform blue then yellow to get the green of the Chasseurs a cheval & Dragoons. Fairly recently I saw that the Musee de l'Armee in Paris was restoring one of Napoleon's undress habit of the Chasseurs a Cheval de la Garde. The coat had turned dark blue over the years.
Jaybo
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On another note prompted by Sergey, I would love to see a SBS by the master painters out there on doing moire silk order ribbons. I know that I have rarely seen it executed satisfactorily in military miniatures. Many of the old masters painting portraits have pulled it off in the past. Food for thought.....
Interesting thoughts Jaybo.
The color changes observed on the green clothing of the Napoleonic chasseurs in the Royal Army Museum in Brussels tell the same story.
If anything, this thread shows the importance both of thorough study before grabbing some colors from the paintbox and of the help of informed friends and fellow painters on this forum.
As for the moiré effect, I still have to see it convincingly on a miniature and wonder how the great names of the moment might go about it. Knowing my limits I prefer working on the shimmering silky aspect.
Thanks to all for the fascinating input in what started as a run of the mill SBS!
Pierre
The color changes observed on the green clothing of the Napoleonic chasseurs in the Royal Army Museum in Brussels tell the same story.
If anything, this thread shows the importance both of thorough study before grabbing some colors from the paintbox and of the help of informed friends and fellow painters on this forum.
As for the moiré effect, I still have to see it convincingly on a miniature and wonder how the great names of the moment might go about it. Knowing my limits I prefer working on the shimmering silky aspect.
Thanks to all for the fascinating input in what started as a run of the mill SBS!
Pierre
Jaybo
A Fixture
I have been fortunate to have visited that wonderful military museum years ago. It is fantastic. When we were there it had a traveling display from Russia on Imperial uniforms from Tsar Nicholas II’s era. There is also the bloodied saddle of a French general from Waterloo. One of my favorite military museums in the world.
Glad you liked it.
In fact, the Russian display is not traveling but part of the permanent collection, Brussels having been a safe haven for the exiled tsarist officers after the Russian Civil War. Their commander, General Pjotr Wrangel lived in Brussels from 1920 and died there in 1928. The collection comprises a lot of ceremonial memorabilia of the elite tsarist cavalry regiments and can be visited everyday with the rest of the museum. Before the pandemic the leading Russian publishing house Russkie Vityazi was preparing a book on this collection, but for the moment that is on hold.
Cheers,
Pierre
Jaybo
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Thank you for the correction Pierre. It is a wonderful display.
Some progress on dear Grigori.
Quite satisfied with the way the green has dried, but still a lot to do: highlighting the braiding on the coat, the neckcloth, details on the orders etc.
cheers,
Pierre
Quite satisfied with the way the green has dried, but still a lot to do: highlighting the braiding on the coat, the neckcloth, details on the orders etc.
cheers,
Pierre
Hi Pierre
That green really works well so a good choice , I really like the sashes
Looking forward to seeing more on the gold lacework and the orders
Have fun
Happy benchtime
Nap
That green really works well so a good choice , I really like the sashes
Looking forward to seeing more on the gold lacework and the orders
Have fun
Happy benchtime
Nap
Steve Ski
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Looking good, real good.
After some mishaps with the braiding, Grigori is almost ready to put his head permanently on his shoulders:
cheers,
Pierre
cheers,
Pierre
Hi Pierre
That gold lacing looks really good despite the " mishaps" ...it's certainly a very striking uniform
Look forward to seeing this fine fellow have the head properly
Thanks for the updates
Happy benchtime
Nap
PS Is that the UP German princess bust hiding over his shoulder ?
That gold lacing looks really good despite the " mishaps" ...it's certainly a very striking uniform
Look forward to seeing this fine fellow have the head properly
Thanks for the updates
Happy benchtime
Nap
PS Is that the UP German princess bust hiding over his shoulder ?
Thanks Nap
What really got me is the lettering on the inside of the grand order stars, but one has to know one's limits.
In the background, lingering after her Dettol bath is indeed Viktoria Luise of Prussia, from Ulrich Puchala's range.
Pierre
What really got me is the lettering on the inside of the grand order stars, but one has to know one's limits.
In the background, lingering after her Dettol bath is indeed Viktoria Luise of Prussia, from Ulrich Puchala's range.
Pierre
Amazing.
One addition for Orders:
- the star of the Order of St. George is gold and black. In your photo, the monogram and the outer circle are blue, but should be black.
- the lower square of the star of the Order of St. Vladimir must be golden.
One addition for Orders:
- the star of the Order of St. George is gold and black. In your photo, the monogram and the outer circle are blue, but should be black.
- the lower square of the star of the Order of St. Vladimir must be golden.
Thank you for the corrections Sergey
Pierre
Pierre
After making the corrections I consider this bust finished.
This has been a joy to paint, from the early collecting of information, through the expert advice of Sergey (member SVT) and the likings of fellow forum members. What started out as a straight run on an interesting bust has become something of a joint effort, where all I had to do was put paint on it!
Free exchange of info, constructive criticism and expert advice is what this forum is about.
So, I owe a big thank you to all who followed this little WIP
Pierre
This has been a joy to paint, from the early collecting of information, through the expert advice of Sergey (member SVT) and the likings of fellow forum members. What started out as a straight run on an interesting bust has become something of a joint effort, where all I had to do was put paint on it!
Free exchange of info, constructive criticism and expert advice is what this forum is about.
So, I owe a big thank you to all who followed this little WIP
Pierre
Hi Pierre
Great comment , I have certainly learnt a heck of a lot from this thread ......mines still in box but sat on the side so will certainly be using this as references
Thanks for Completed pics https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/prince-grigori-aleksandrovich-potemkin-tauricheskii.529089/
Thanks for sharing
Look forward to seeing more
Happy benchtime
Nap
Great comment , I have certainly learnt a heck of a lot from this thread ......mines still in box but sat on the side so will certainly be using this as references
Thanks for Completed pics https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/prince-grigori-aleksandrovich-potemkin-tauricheskii.529089/
Thanks for sharing
Look forward to seeing more
Happy benchtime
Nap
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