WIP Sophia Bellicui Baffo - Safiye Sultan ( 1550-1605)

[Blind Pew]

Another WIP picture......

 

[Blind Pew]

Completed.... or as good as I can do...

 

[Huw63]

There really is no stopping you now! Excellent.

Cheers

Huw

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Hello Blind Pew and Huw.

All of your comments are true and thank you for all kind words, explanations and photos you have shared

First of all I dont have any art education or self interest before, only some eye and hands and technique from regular kit modeling.

May be I made wrong before try flats. I should have research more, see more examples before start. All I know about flat world has been told by you and Mr.Odell, Huw and few more people.

Your examples given me some thoughts, please correct me if I am wrong ;

May be I need to change my approach to flats in totally different way. Probably because lack of information, I am trying to give all depth and perspective effect by sculpt volume itself.

What I saw from your examples, most of the depth effect has been given by paint itself (or seems to me like that??!?)

Secondly, may be this was the hard one for the beginner which I jumped into

I should have more information, practice and view before start this one...

As you have been told, adjusting all those perspective was very painy. But still lot to revise specially in face which I have to.

I always need true and honest critiques for the step up.

Again thank you for your time and effort for the comments and photos you have shared.

Cheers,

Serhan

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Also I see what I am doing, in about this angle when work.. This can be also effected result. Its hard to adjust all on this.. And may be slightly different then the previous photos ??

I will keep in mind all of those and try changes.

Cheers,

Serhan.

 

[Huw63]

Sehran

No need to say thanks. I really admire your approach.

I'm used to modelling but am pretty average. I've a few faults but so far haven't had the courage to start painting them. Your work is an inspiration.

Cheers

Huw

 

[Rich Sculpts]

May be I need to change my approach to flats in totally different way. Probably because lack of information, I am trying to give all depth and perspective effect by sculpt volume itself.

Hi Serhan, sculpt to the thickness you prefer, if you try to conform to a standard (which really only applies to flat tin figures) it will kill your creativity and ultimately take all the fun out of the process. My sculpts range from high to low relief, the thickness depends on the subject matter (pose and subject angle) my last sculpt was around 8.5mm thick, the one I am working on now will be half of that. Keep doing what you enjoy please don't restrict yourself to what others consider a standard, because in relief sculpting - there really isn't one

Keep the work going you are making great progress - do what you do best

-Rich

 

[Blind Pew]

Dear Serhan, don't change your approach, as it is a good one. After all, as long as you are pleased and enjoy it nothing else matters.
I too have my approach, as I use Magic Sculpt and if needs jewelery wire. I have used plastic card too, but it was rubbish and didn't work. Keep your approach as it suits you and you are comfortable with it.

As for education, I'm the same as you, although I was very very fortunate to have had the late great Roy Hunt as a tutor of sorts, and other valuable members of a local modeling club. Great for advice. Your best teacher is experience and to trust your instincts - most of all have fun!

too many people forget that.

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Hello Mr.Odell and Blind Pew,

Thank you for detailed explanations. All was very instructive and helpful. About thickness of this work, its 3.5 mm. in thickest part on flower vase. I was suspected too much thick but hope its ok.

I tried to update face, hands and added some more details on carpet she sit on it.. Hope got some points of your explanations Blind Pew.

Cheers,

Serhan.

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Hello,

Decided to conclude it becasue goes on and never ends... I am happy with the result.

Thank you all to whom commented and help.

Cheers,

Serhan.

 

[garyhiggins]

Hi Serhan, when you work in relief, the two fundamentals are the structure of the subject and the perspective. Sculpting a figure in the round, you don't have to bother with perspective because that takes care of itself, but in relief you've got to put that in and that takes practice and experience. You have to understand how form comes together in relation to perspective and the best way to do that is to draw. Good old paper and pencil. I know it sounds boring and arty, but if you learn perspective and learn how to shape things just by manipulating a pencil on a flat surface, you'll get a lot more out of your sculpting.
If you look on google and go to relief sculpting images, you'll see hundreds of examples of reliefs going back centuries. People have rendered relief sculpts in pretty much every medium from marble to gold, and at every depth from almost paper thin to almost fully round. It is a very exacting discipline, and some of the greatest artists in history have worked in relief.
I hope this gives you some small insight into how to progress, best wishes, Gary.

 

[Blind Pew]

Gary talks good sense indeed.
Also try to figure out what you want to sculpt, and what you want the paint to do.... do this early and be decisive. Enjoy it!

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Hello Gary and Blind Pew,

Thanks for explaining fully requirement for perform such kind of works. I am not so nice in draw something but I will do more practices and will ask your opinions from here.

Blind Pew, yes I understood about profession on some era of history ( WWı, WW2, napolenoic ) or branch of subject( fiction, fantasy, horror etc) for me its also hard to determine that becasue I see some flying owl and like it and after saw some vikings fighting 15 ppl, I also want to work it too

Need some time to try and try from all and it will come itself which kind of era or type I enjoy more.. I can honestly say that hate female figures at the moment..

Cheers,
Serhan

 

[Stephan]

I like that a lot really, but in my opinion you have to rework the mouth. Specially from the lady.

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Hello Stephan and Blind Pew.

Thank you so much for your comment. On this one I can not rework at the moment. I already cooked it and now its under RTV.

May be in next ones I will try to be more carefull and patient..

About ladies yes Blind Pew you have been told

Cheers,
Serhan.

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Hello All,

Today my resin arrived and I tried first casts. I could find two different resins for suitable for this kind of work in our local market. One was Axon resin F180 and Sika G26 was option.

Choosing G26 was much more correct decision but the cost was more then two times more. So I choose Axon F180 and tried that one. Actually, with the Axon nothing is wrong, its similar like Sika G27 fast jelling time, attacks fast..

Problem was with my flats master, as expected. next time I will be more careful with jewellry details and will try embeeded em as much as I can do.

Copy of Relief was reletively more nice, only one or two jewellery detail is missing. I also was expecting pin holes on copies due air bubbles in resin but I did not noticed even one. Lucky.. May be need to check this again after priming..

Anyways, learning and lessons continues alltime..

Thanks for looking,

Cheers,

Serhan.

 

[Graham]

You have to admire someone who fancies doing something and then goes and does it. Well done Serhan, follow your dreams and never give up.

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Hello.

Thank you for kind words again Graham.

Trying to paint now..

Thanks for looking.

Serhan.

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Trying to paint.. so hot days...

I resized photo to actual.

Thanks for looking.

 

[SERHAN OFLAS]

Hello,

Closing to finish on this one..

Thanks for looking.

Serhan.