Sorry another question for the oil guys
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Windsor & Newton are a very good brand, although I haven't tried the Winton range. You don't need much paint, so 21ml should be a good a start.
I have been using these http://www.winsornewton.com/au/shop/oil-colour/artisan-water-mixable-oil-colour They are water mixable oils, so no need to use a solvent and they dry similar to acrylics - no shine. Very easy to blend for shadows and highlights. More expensive than the ones you are looking at though. I use normal oils for faces, leather and woodwork to give a sheen to them.
Block in the base colours with acrylic, and then paint over with the oils - using a thin coat.
Chris
I have been using these http://www.winsornewton.com/au/shop/oil-colour/artisan-water-mixable-oil-colour They are water mixable oils, so no need to use a solvent and they dry similar to acrylics - no shine. Very easy to blend for shadows and highlights. More expensive than the ones you are looking at though. I use normal oils for faces, leather and woodwork to give a sheen to them.
Block in the base colours with acrylic, and then paint over with the oils - using a thin coat.
Chris
As Chris says a good start
I am not a full blown oily using water soluable ones from Cobra ( expensive!) , but I actually also mix with my beloved acrylics .
You do not need much so a small tube will last years !
Don't forget sometimes a liquid will form at the top so use a paper towel of card before use to soak this up
Nap
I am not a full blown oily using water soluable ones from Cobra ( expensive!) , but I actually also mix with my beloved acrylics .
You do not need much so a small tube will last years !
Don't forget sometimes a liquid will form at the top so use a paper towel of card before use to soak this up
Nap
DEL
A Fixture
These are absolutely fine. Obviously you need to add a titanium white and a lamp black to these.
Can I also suggest Naples yellow, burnt siena and sap green.
From this lot you can produce a huge range of colours. As your understanding of oils develops you simply add to your collection from whatever range and producer meets your needs. Remember a little goes a very long way, I'm still using tubes I bought 20 years ago.
Can I also suggest Naples yellow, burnt siena and sap green.
From this lot you can produce a huge range of colours. As your understanding of oils develops you simply add to your collection from whatever range and producer meets your needs. Remember a little goes a very long way, I'm still using tubes I bought 20 years ago.
megroot
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I agree with DEL. Addition of the colors he suggest would be great.
I also use oils that are 20 years or more.
Clean up the caps before you close. Otherwise you get a clump of paint at the outside wich hardens, and you will be unable to open to tube on a day.
You don't need much paint with oils.
Marc
I also use oils that are 20 years or more.
Clean up the caps before you close. Otherwise you get a clump of paint at the outside wich hardens, and you will be unable to open to tube on a day.
You don't need much paint with oils.
Marc
Tecumsea
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To be honest at the price they are a good starting point to test whether you want to stay with oils or move to Acrylic. You will, if you stay with oils want to move to the professional colours which are ground from finer pigment and more opaque with less carrier. I bought a load of Windsor and Newton oils before I was introduced to old Holland which are far superior. Remember you only need a small range of colours to be able to mix the majority and you can then add odd useful colours like buff titanium if you feel the need.
Keith
Keith
mick3272
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As a matter of interest what is the drying time for water soluble oil paints.
Mick
Never actually timed it Mick but if used as a Oil painting rpthey have the same properties as normal ones
Nap
Mick,
From my experience, using both solvent and water, it is much quicker than normal oils.
Chris
Wayneb
A Fixture
Out of curiosity;..Why are they called water soluble oil paints?I didn't think oil and water mixed or is that my old school thinking.
Wayne
Wayne
Ron Tamburrini
A Fixture
Not sure but this link describes the binders and their versatility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_miscible_oil_paint
I am not a prolific painter, but have found them easier to use than normal oil paints.
Chris
Wayneb
A Fixture
Thanks Chris......Interesting info that pretty much sums it up for me.I might get a tube of black to test and see what kind of control it has for shading on acrylics.
OldTaff
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Some folks don't like them, but I have found them to be very versatile, mixable with acrylics , standard oils and even enamels ( Heresy?
) In the end, it's whatever works best for you. I have learnt so much from you chaps on here, proving that you CAN teach an old dog new tricks
And it has given me much enjoyment in the process.
Alan
) In the end, it's whatever works best for you. I have learnt so much from you chaps on here, proving that you CAN teach an old dog new tricks And it has given me much enjoyment in the process.Alan
Yes, and they can be mixed with either solvent or water, but not together. Using solvent seems to give a very flat acrylic type finish, while while water leaves a flat to very slight, almost imperceptible, sheen. Roger found they were a rather too oily, but I have not had that experience with the tubes I have (W&N Artisan). In fact just the opposite - some are quite thick when squeezed from the tube.
As you say Alan, some people don't like them, but I like the combination of being able to blend them and a quick drying time, as well as being very easy to use. They have become my preferred medium. (just can't crack the washes for highlights and shadows with acrylics).
Chris
As you say Alan, some people don't like them, but I like the combination of being able to blend them and a quick drying time, as well as being very easy to use. They have become my preferred medium. (just can't crack the washes for highlights and shadows with acrylics).
Chris
John Bowery
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Winton brand are made for students and the finished colour is not as durable as the "Artist" brand. This is according to and old planet figure member called "Enion"
Just and FYI
Just and FYI
