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Like Mark I used to buy mags. if there was something nice to"read". Then they started putting them up higher, now I dont bother as I cant reach them!

Don
 
Like Mark I used to buy mags. if there was something nice to"read". Then they started putting them up higher, now I dont bother as I cant reach them!

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You try being in a 'wheelchair', mate! .. all I can reach, is 'Woman's weekly', or 'Knitting-Today' ... that is really is frustrating! ... and its not as if I could ask someone either! ..LOL! ...
 

Sorry to hear about you being in a wheelchair mate, not very good but hope you can get out of there soon if possable. Knitting weekly is a pretty good read "allegedly."
Lots of old mags here if you want them, save you stretching, let me know!


Don
 
Back in the mists of time I wrote a few figure build and paint articles for a monthly modelling publication and initialy I was allowed to give a bit of historical background and some techniques. As I used oils I used to mention the base colours in the text and then say which other colours I added for shadows and highlights. After a time I was asked to drop the historical background as it was a modelling mag not a history book and then I was asked if I could produce colour charts for the paints I'd used! I tried to expalin it was an art not a science and I mixed the colours 'til they looked right and that was part of the fun which seemd to fall on deaf ears! I stopped writing as it all be came to formulaic and then they pretty much dropped figures from the mag; bit of a shame really!

I know where you are coming from Jon ,the minute I see 80% so and so and 20% of this or that I just switch off, its colours I want to mix not formulas
 
Hi Ron,I know what you mean about all these different techniques,I don't understand half of them either,for me the best 3 books I've ever brought tell me and taught me everything I need to know about figure painting in oils,I've listed them below should you be interested,I buy some magazines to see the different show reports and to get ideas,the articles don't do anything for me.

Building and Painting Scale Figures - Sheperd Paine
Painting Miniatures - Danilo Cartacci
Colour Theory And Application - Bob Knee

These are my bibles mate and i refer to them when needed,forget everything else,IMO these are all you need for oil painting.

Brian
 
Same paints + same technique + same ratios & mixes = same result. At least that settles the art argument. Perhaps manufacturers will be able to print figures with the paint by numbers map already afixed to the sculpture. Then a gold medal will be he/she who best stays inside the lines.

Sorry....I am still sick and am very cynical and self pitying today.

Colin
 
I have to agree with Ron's initial statement about hardly anything being written about oil paints anymore. For us non-artists, everything printed seems to be focused on acrylics. I guess that's because most European painters use acrylics and the publishers seem to have blinders on with regards to the rest of the world. Out of frustration, I have now quit buying figure painting books as despite the hoopla around this new series the last one I just received wasn't any better than the first 2 and I think they're up to issue 7 or 8 by now. For an oil painter it's a waste of money as they only seem to have 1 or 2 articles for oil painters and they aren't very useful at all. What I need are proper mixes for flesh tones etc. so I can try to achieve the amazing results that others achieve.
There! That's my rant for today. :happy:

Gary
 
I have to agree with Ron's initial statement about hardly anything being written about oil paints anymore. For us non-artists, everything printed seems to be focused on acrylics. I guess that's because most European painters use acrylics and the publishers seem to have blinders on with regards to the rest of the world. Out of frustration, I have now quit buying figure painting books as despite the hoopla around this new series the last one I just received wasn't any better than the first 2 and I think they're up to issue 7 or 8 by now. For an oil painter it's a waste of money as they only seem to have 1 or 2 articles for oil painters and they aren't very useful at all. What I need are proper mixes for flesh tones etc. so I can try to achieve the amazing results that others achieve.
There! That's my rant for today. :happy:

Gary

And presumably Gary you can get that here for free. Not nicely packaged figure porn, but the info is available from the membership.

Colin
 
Maybe more people are using acrylics than oils, not just in Europe but elsewhere. A lot of people seem to have the silly idea that acrylics are easier to use and that you have to undergo some apprenticeship of many years, to master using oils.

Prost!
Brad

PS--maybe it's poetic justice, but isn't "International Figure" going out of print in another couple of issues?
 
Ron, so sorry to have to disagree as I love your work and wish I could paint like you, but I have every edition of Figure International and its now on number 46. Its a quarterly mag so that makes 11 and a half years. I used to buy Military Modelling Magazine religiously from the late 80s but that is so full of vehicles and armour now that I dont even bother to look at it at the newsagents anymore. Figure International has filled the gap for me, full of articles about painting and painters. It has recently been taken over by a new editor, Jose Maria Lopez, who IMHO has improved this magazine. Ok, I agree that there is a lot of acylic painting going on and I, like you, am an oily, but it is good to get different painters points of view and we can all learn learna lot from this. As for undercoating in black, it doesn't work for me but take a look at this editions Man Jin Kims version of Carl Reids superb 79th Cameron Highlander bust. It really is incredible painting. All I am saying is, we all paint differently but we all strive for perfection, so if we learn something different along the way surely thats a good thing, right?
 
Ron, so sorry to have to disagree as I love your work and wish I could paint like you, but I have every edition of Figure International and its now on number 46. Its a quarterly mag so that makes 11 and a half years. I used to buy Military Modelling Magazine religiously from the late 80s but that is so full of vehicles and armour now that I dont even bother to look at it at the newsagents anymore. Figure International has filled the gap for me, full of articles about painting and painters. It has recently been taken over by a new editor, Jose Maria Lopez, who IMHO has improved this magazine. Ok, I agree that there is a lot of acylic painting going on and I, like you, am an oily, but it is good to get different painters points of view and we can all learn learna lot from this. As for undercoating in black, it doesn't work for me but take a look at this editions Man Jin Kims version of Carl Reids superb 79th Cameron Highlander bust. It really is incredible painting. All I am saying is, we all paint differently but we all strive for perfection, so if we learn something different along the way surely thats a good thing, right?

Jazz I am not knocking the acrylic painters they do incredible things with what I think is a most difficult medium ,so much so I can't even undercoat with the damned stuff without losing patience with it:arghh:
It is just the total lack of input about oils as if they were some disease we oily guys have. :happy: I would love to get the black undercoat to work for me also .


Ron
PS I think most of us including myself wish we could paint like someone else :playful:
 
Hi guys

In a momentary lapse of reason I bought a figure mag today .
"International Figure"
Nothing wrong with the mag, just nowt in it for me ,is there no oil painters writing stuff anymore.

I really do get fed up reading about paint mixes in percentages, washes ,filters and so on .
I have no bloody idea the difference between a wash and a filter and why the use of Chaos black
for a base considering how thick the stuff is and off course it's tendency to dry with a mild sheen
and if you have a flub up "have you ever tried to get the stuff off.

Won't be buying any more mags thats for sure:grumpy:

mini rant over

Ron
Calm yourself Ron I know how you feel but you can still use oils similar to the acrylic boys by using the wet on dry technique.
Brian
 
You are right Ron, about oils not being used enough. I think we may be a dying breed. Personally I have always found oils easier to work with than acylics and believe me I have tried to use acrylics but for me they are just good enough to use as a base coat. Oils rule ok!!
 
You are right Ron, about oils not being used enough. I think we may be a dying breed. Personally I have always found oils easier to work with than acylics and believe me I have tried to use acrylics but for me they are just good enough to use as a base coat. Oils rule ok!!

The only thing that keeps me straying off the righteous path in search of the great Budda of oils, is the work that David Mitchell, Brian Snaddon and Eddy Vandersteen Produce time after time .
We meet at Davies place the former two that is along with the mighty Del and the indomitable Don, and I always leave totally dejected after seeing there work

ron
 

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