On the Evening of Waterloo

[peedee]

Hi Paul.

You can put it down to old age dodgy eye site or to much sun & sol y sombra. But yours truly is a little confused. Are those 4 dobbins shown above for the carriage or the gun team, as I can only see one in the picture for the carriage. Confused El mick

Righto Mick, have another look at the carriage mockup complete. The big sticky out thing is called the harness pole that fits into the futchell between the two smaller wheels of the avant-carriage.
where the pole emerges from the futchell is a harness yoke at right angles and on each side of that is; hanging by a black strap a swingle tree. You will also see the same at the front end of the pole each swingle the harnessing point for a horse.
All these carriages where designed to be pulled by a team of two pairs of two draught horses, along with two Postillion drivers, who usually stayed with the same pair.

In fact Napoleon's coach was reported to have used a team of 6 in bad weather conditions.

Knowing that to be the case , although there is only one postillion in view there must be a minimum of 4 horses and another driver.

I hope that makes sense.

Paul

 

[mick3272]

Greetings,
I understand all about the big sticky out thing and the harnessing, I was confused because when I look at the painting I can only see one / maybe a pair of brown horse/s I cant pick out a team of four.
So I take it you showing how it should be and not what you can see in the painting,
Got it.
time for another sol y sombra
El Mick

 

[peedee]

Aye Mick, I'm also doing the other side of the coach that you can't see, and painting the figures on both sides.

Paul.

 

[mick3272]

Right.

"It is quite important for you to understand this is to be a model of the painting verbatim, and will include all the innumerable mistakes of uniform depiction .
I know what they are and quite frankly I just don't care ! "

I was just confused. only asked.
El Mick

 

[Richard Baxter]

Great work, Paul, some classic research and problem solving required. Art and reality are often far apart. Honest...

Look forward to seeing the Airfix Line Infantryman that I sent you in there somewhere!

Seriously though, to take this on, you must be a few assegais short of an impi (to quote my compadre The Chimp). Just remember that the line between madness and genius is very slender!!

 

[Ray Welshman]

Wow just noticed this dio, quite a bit of work there, looking forward to seeing it done

Cheers

Ray

 

[Huw63]

Great work Paul - love what you're doing here. I don't think you're mad.

Cheers

Huw

 

[peedee]

Right. .....edit...I was just confused. only asked.
El Mick

Woops.
Mick I am sorry. I thought you were pulling my leg so My reply would look rude to you.

Sorry mate I wouldn't want to offend you for the world.
to explain. To see the completed model exactly as in the painting you would have to view it permanantly at eye level.
At any other angle you will see over the grenadiers and behind Napoleon and staff.

So as we are in 3D I have to do the full coach n neddies.

This is the dilemma I've discussed with a few people, and I thought you had been one of them.

What is/who is behind the wall of Grenadiers?

There's a big space there behind the coach.

I do have a plan for that but keeping it up my sleeve as Phase four.

Thanks for looking I hope that"s a more appropriate explanation?

Paul.

 

[peedee]

Great work, Paul, some classic research and problem solving required. Art and reality are often far apart. Honest...

Look forward to seeing the Airfix Line Infantryman that I sent you in there somewhere!

Seriously though, to take this on, you must be a few assegais short of an impi (to quote my compadre The Chimp). Just remember that the line between madness and genius is very slender!!

Lol Richard. I have already built those kits and others but they will all be conversions.
They are just poured onto the front in this photo from earlier in the thread to illustrate the chaos of the right hand corner.
So have another look they and others are all there

thanks for your comments.

Paul.

 

[peedee]

Wow just noticed this dio, quite a bit of work there, looking forward to seeing it done Cheers Ray

Ray thanks hope you like what you see when you check in again.

Paul.

 

[peedee]

Great work Paul - love what you're doing here. I don't think you're mad. Cheers Huw

Hahaha we may be the only two who think that when it's done mate.
I like your idea and plan.
It's Cuirassier and Cuirassier isn't it?.

Have you set a start date yet?

If not, I would seriously advise you (boring I know) to try and build the stick ones before opening up the plastic.

Once you do begin the space available to work shrinks exponentialy !
Paul

 

[Mat Lambert]

Hi Paul
Liking your progress. I particularly like the pose of the horse in your 2nd from last photo - just got something about it. Rest look great as well of course and the carriage is looking very fine.
Cheers
Mat

 

[peedee]

Hi Paul
Liking your progress. I particularly like the pose of the horse in your 2nd from last photo - just got something about it. Rest look great as well of course and the carriage is looking very fine. Cheers Mat

Thanks for that Mat glad you like it.

Paul.

 

[Viking Bob]

Great work Paul - love what you're doing here. I don't think you're mad.

Cheers

Huw

Paul,
I think, we as figure painters, modellers and vignette makers, are all slightly mad. Who in there right mind would put them selves through this for fun.
BTW great progress.
All the best
wibble

 

[peedee]

Paul.......edit

.. Who in there right mind would put them selves through this for fun. BTW great progress. All the best wibble

Thanks for that Bob.

I still think it funny that some think there is any stress involved with this. It's not a huge project in my mind.

It's three to four scenes that together make a bigger one.

The number of components is about the same as I finished last year, then add a cannon and the carriage...that's it.

I am doing nothing else apart from this project until it's finished either
So ....no stress
No worries.
No time limit.

Loving it.

Paul

 

[Richard Baxter]

We are enjoying its emergence too. It will be in the same league as all those great Historex set-pieces of yesteryear. Am thinking of Shep Paine's "Eve of Essling" here: old Boney plus his staff and escort, probably 30 figures in all. Epic scale and delivery...you're up there, mate.

 

[peedee]

We are enjoying its emergence too. It will be in the same league as all those great Historex set-pieces of yesteryear.
Am thinking of Shep Paine's "Eve of Essling" here: old Boney plus his staff and escort, probably 30 figures in all.
Epic scale and delivery...you're up there, mate.

Gawd 'elp me.
I didn't wanna be that famous!
It's only a model Richard.
I didn't expect this kind of reaction...
Your words feel overly kind really but it's wonderful that you are all so supportive, it genuinely means a lot and many of you are a real part of this too.

Thank you.

Paul.

 

[pgarri27]

Great, I'm still following with great interest.
I have a box full of Historex and this is inspiring.

Marc

Get started on something Historex. We all wait to see what you will start.

 

[pgarri27]

PeeDee, I am enjoying the progress reports. We are all mad...mad with a passion for Historex. I remember when I first laid eyes on on a built up Historex figure. Love at first sight. Then some modeller, unknown to me, made a diorama of Historex, with artillery making haste to the front. It must have had 40-50 figures, mounted and foot. It was in a 4foot x 8foot sandbox table and displayed at the local library. It inspired visions of dioramas that I hoped to one day make. I have built lots of Historex, but never a diorama. I am very inspired as I watch you move forward on yours. Thanks for sharing with us.

 

[mick3272]

I dont know if it is still there but the toy museum under Brighton Railway station had some really huge historex dioramas spent many a hour looking at them.
mick