WIP Sapeur Neuchatel Battalion 1809

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Hi Geoff

The more I look at this SBS and the amount of great posts on the colour and references ..the more I am tempted by this

The colour you have on it atm looks really close .......so many variations all within a wide range of the colour ( I seem to remember a similar thing with our Skinners Horse busts )

Hope we might see this at Yeovil in March

Thanks for sharing

Happy benchtime

Nap
 

Can't go much past the real example provided by Neil. This one may have faded but given the descriptions that Chamois was a light yellow the uniform doesn't seem the be the bright yellow or yellowish orange sometimes seen.

Neufchateau Battalion .JPG
 
Can't go much past the real example provided by Neil. This one may have faded but given the descriptions that Chamois was a light yellow the uniform doesn't seem the be the bright yellow or yellowish orange sometimes seen.

Yes Chris, I am happy with the mix I have done which is a bit darker version of your faded pic.

Cheers
Geoff
 
Yes Chris, I am happy with the mix I have done which is a bit darker version of your faded pic.

Cheers
Geoff


Yes I think it looks good Geoff. As mentioned previously different dyes and sun causing fading would have produced different shades of the colour. Looking forward to the finished version as I have a Neufchateau battalion carabineer waiting in the wings.

Best wishes.
Chris
 
NO, YOU'VE NOT BEEN FLICKED TO SOME BIRD BREEDING SITE :)

It may be a stretch (if so sorry to all concerned), but some thoughts on the Brigade's 'canary' nickname:

Nowadays we (non canary breeders) tend to think just of the vivid mustard yellow canaries as kept in a 'gilded cage' in days of yore (we had a budgie as we were told canaries are too delicate).

So, I had a look see and discovered that this stereotype is far from the full truth.

For starters, there are two varieties: the original wild 'Atlantic' version (Serinus canaria) and the bred domestic ones (Serinus canaria forma domestica):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_canary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_canary

Keeping and breeding canaries has been going on since the C17th. Breeding was for colour, 'type' (shape and feathering) or song with Continental breeders tending to go for plainer, less colourful songbirds and the UK for type and colour.

Some old prints show that colours were not always as we think of them today:
Can-1770.JPGCan-1790.JPGCan-1878.JPGCan-1890.JPG
1770..................................1790 (wild)........................1878 (bred)....................................1890 (bred)

So, this seems to suggest that even uniforms in paler shades of yellow (eg chamois) might be enough to make the connection with the birds

Nor are all modern birds bright yellow:
Can-wild.JPG vs Can-modern.JPG vs Can-bred2.JPG
wild Atlantic vs pale modern bred vs the stereotypical yellow bred

.

Some other modern breeds:
Can-bred3.JPGCan-bred4.JPGCan-type.JPGCan-type2.JPG
 
Hi Geoff

That looks pretty close to the original museum item

Personally I would go very slightly darker overall ...but that's a personal thing !

Coming together with the facings and the cords as well

Happy benchtime

Nap
 
Hi Geoff

That looks pretty close to the original museum item

Personally I would go very slightly darker overall ...but that's a personal thing !

Coming together with the facings and the cords as well

Happy benchtime

Nap

I think you have cracked it Geoff. Interesting discussion all round, and a big thanks to Neil for those photos of actual jackets.

Thank you Both and all those that contributed to this thread, by the time I have finished him it might look a tad darker Nap but I now have a good base colour.

And now I must deal with BOB who took me too literally.

Cheers Guys
Geoff
 


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